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Re: Lengthy Guestbook Posts

Jerod
Are you saying having pride in your chapters is bad?

Min. H
With the LIMITED amount of information you give, I cannot adequately answer your question, and since you are being so SECRETIVE, I will pass on this one.

Jerod
I'm a proud father, a proud Environmentalist, a proud man of God. For I know without God I could not have done any of these things. Yes I represent Omega but to God be the Glory in every way we help people.

Min. H
To Omega's GLORY!!!!!!!!!! "Omega Dear, we are thine own, THOU ART OUR LIFE, OUR LOVE, OUR HOME. We'll sing THY PRAISES far and nigh, we'll love Omega Psi Phi"

Jerod
You have problems! Pledging has never made anyone a member of a frat/soro. The intake process does, you pledge by choice.


Min. H
So people like you and those at your chapter encourage not only ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR, BUT DIRECT DISOBEDIENCE TO THE FRATERNITY!!!!!! You must have failed the first 3 tests of D, F, and O. If they still do them in that order.


Jerod
The way you say paper member, it seem like you mean it as an insult.

Min. H
I will let my above answer speak to that.


Jerod
Truthfully, intake process is the only way to become a member.

Min. H
This is the OFFICAL WAY to become a member, but you know as well as I do that this is not the accepted way by most. People pledge becasue they are not strong enough to deal with the ostracization of being paper.

Jerod
I'm not crazy, I know that there are some people who are pledging. But that's their choice. And if you see some of the good in these org why disown them?

Min. H
Because they teach anti-biblical doctrine. The universal borhterhood of man, the fatherhood of god, faith in omega and the brothers, etc. OMEGAS ARE SIMPLY MASONS WITHOUT THE SQUARE AND COMPASS.

If Omega REALLY wants to change and accomodate TRUE Christian Manhood, then they can come holler at me, I already made it known unto them where I stand. So they disown the Savior, by what they teach, and through many deeds they promote.


Jerod
You as a member have to change things that you see wrong. Not put it down all together. I bet your a proud man of God just as alot of members in these org. So we all can't be that bad. I just don't share your views of frat. As far as any question about the frat, can't answer non or should I say EX- MEMBERS.

Min. H
So do you see me as bad then? Let's put your questions back into your mouth and ask you the same thing. So can I be all that bad?


Jerod
You admit that you know the intent, and you do nothing to help with the true intent. Then your no better than the members that are not doing what it is we are to be doing.

Min. H
You were no better when you chose to disobey the frat by pledging. Pledging is not a choice the fraternity offers, so let's get that straight. You cam in the fraternity WRONG.

I did try to help with the true intent, but no one was willing to listen, Christians included.


Jerod
Yes people see Omega doing these things but with out God we could not make these things happen.

Min. H
Oh! I like this philosophy. You see muslims doing certain things like you all to, and without Allah (God) they couldn't make it happen, right?


Jerod
And guess what, God himself put us in the position to be a blessing to someone who needs it. No matter if they are in an org are not, you can't argue the fact that helping people is a blessing from God.


Min. H
Sinners do it all the time, but will still go to hell if they reject Jesus.


Jerod
Good through the steps to help change what is wrong in these org and stop degrading them.

Min. H
I am glad you asked that question, because now you placed yourself in the hot seat.

All caps for emphasis only.

YOU SET UP A MEETING WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF OMEGAS, SPECIFICALLY THOSE IN LEADERSHIP, AND I WILL COME AND OFFER MY SUGGESTIONS AS TO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND YOU MUST BE PRESENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU JEROD, MAKE IT HAPPEN, AND I HAVE ANOTHER BROTHER IN CHRIST WHO IS AN EX-OMEGA, WHO WOULD LOVE TO ADD HIS INPUT.

THERE'S ONE PROBLEM THOUGH JEROD, AND IT CAME FROM YOUR OWN MOUTH. YOU DON'T TALK TO EX-QUES. LOL!!!!!!!!

Re: Lengthy Guestbook Posts

Jerod
No need to chat, this will be my last email. Christian is first, which to me means Christ and the followers of Jesus, Manhood is to be a honorable man and scholarship is to be wise.

Min. H
Christian Manhood according to the fraternity has nothing to do with salvation, ot they would not have you accept the Fatherhood of God and the Universal Brotherhood of Man. You need to study this and find out what it is sir. Did the fraternity PUBLICLY REBUKE JESSE JACKSON FOR ADULTERY? NO! Love, mercy, judgment, forgiveness, etc. are all tied together. The fraternity still places Jesse as one of its notable members, even though he never openly repented beofre the public. Could you imagine what kind of POSITIVE IMPACT THIS COULD HAVE ON THE COUNTRY?

Manhood is to be honorable. What is honorable to Omega? To keep secret anything another brother tells you. ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!! I know one thing that is honorable that I do not see Omega teaching, and that's Hebrews 13:4. "Be Owt Dog!!!!!!!" Not get married, and be with your wife Bruh!!!!!!!!


Jerod
Thats the way I see it, your saved and i'm happy for you. Live your life and do what ever you feel your calling is. As for me, I'm saved as well and pledging has never made you a member, there are some things wrong in the frat, but if not for God we could not be the blessing that we are to others.

Min. H
If not for Vishnu, the Hindus could not be the blessing they are to poeple. If not for Allah, the muslims could not be the blessing they are to people either. Agreed?


Jeord
I'm going to be one of those members that will work to make changes in the frat for the better and not one of those guys who put it down when I think the rules and regulation are wrong. Do what you do but in my opinion you are truly misleading these people because of what ever has happen to you. Not being accepted or what ever but you deal with your issues.

Min. H
I NEED TO LET ALL PEOPLE KNOW WHO READ THIS WHERE THIS ARROGANCE THAT LEAVING A GREEK ORGANIZATION, SPECIFICALLY OMEGA PSI PHI COMES FROM. THAT LEAVING AN ORGANIZATION PLACES YOU AMONG THE MENTALLY UNSTABLE.

You have seen where I mentioned the Fatherhood of God and the Universal Brotherhood of Man? Well there is another declaration of something pledges have accepted; the sole aristocracy of the intellect. Basically, this means that the educated person is naturally superior to the uneducated (e.g. THE TALENTED TENTH MENTALITY).

With this type of mentality, and always being told that your frat is the greatest, that your chapter is the hardest, etc. I can understand why educated men, such as Jerod himself would choose to self-degrade themselves to join.


Jerod
Frat/Soro help people and that can't be wrong.

Min. H
Luke 11:11-13
11If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent?

12Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion?

13If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

Re: Lengthy Guestbook Posts

Jerod
At one of those function, you may have been treated real bad or something, and things like that happen because members don't know or misunderstand the intent and meaning of brotherhood. Deal with it and get pass it,. you seem to be getting a lil puss because you know that frat and soro help people and you were one of those who was not fully accepted.

Min. H
You can keep riding that train to the end of the track. If you start riding it in the other direction, you must have missed your stop. I had great relationships with brothers in the sixth D, it was many of them who had the meltdown when I denounced, not me. I knew what I was doing, and full confident to the tune of writing a book about it. So in all honesty, I think it's Ques like you who need to get past this whole thing. If some of my former frat brothers called me up, and wanted me to come to a set, why not go. Just put the wood up and be prepared to hear about Jesus as the Savior, then a real history lesson about Omega and GLO's.

Jerod
And from what I get, you actually pledged. I say poor you. Deal with it guy, every one doesn't have the heart nor the will to make right what is wrong. No I don't agree with everything the frat does but we do make a difference in people lives that need help and that's a blessing within itself. Be cool, wish you the best and I pray you get pass your issues.

Min. H
Sir- I denounced/renounced in 1995. I was over it 13 years ago, and may I say this to you and all, OMEGA HAS DONE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN THOSE 13 YEARS TO GET MY ATTENTION, EXCEPT SEND ME A LETTER BEGGING ME TO COME BACK AND HELP THEM PAY THEIR LEGAL COSTS DUE TO HAZING. WOWZERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Lengthy Guestbook Posts

Jerod
Cool, the bad needs to be worked on, but the way you going about it is all wrong.

Min. H
Pure opinion based on no facts.

Jerod
You should clean your house before trying clean others.

Min. H
Are you implying that when I was an Omega, or the my house afterwards?

If you mean the former, I tried as a member, but I cleaned up my own house when I got saved, not by trying to fix a a wayward fraternity, founded upon masonic principles.


Jerod
If you feel Omega is wrong then fix it.

Min. H
I am doing that one soul at a time. Why can I not do it from the outside? They have to let me help.

Jerod
I have more heart than you think. Believe that. The fact that i'm doing and working for the real intent of the frat shows that.

Min. H
You're just talking, but how do I know?

Jerod
Unlike guys that lack the manhood to make change in their org so they try to destroy it.

Min. H
I do not live by yours, nor the fraternity's definition or ideal of manhood. Nice pot shot! And yes, I am trying to destroy the demonic strongholds, while Christians are busy upholding them. IT'S REAL FUNNY HOW YOU HAVE NOT MENTIONED ONE THING WRONG WITH YOUR FRATERNITY. HOW ABOUT THREE OR FOUR?


Jerod
Just because you do good work doesn't make the work that others do wrong or even bad. But I see your attitude in these response. All the more proof you have issues with the way you were treated.

Min. H
The man in the mirror.


Jerod
Face it, everybody doesn't have what it takes to stand and clean their frat up, so the move is to leave it all together.

Min. H
See Jerod, I did that when I admitted before an Almighty God that I was a sinner, in need of a bloodshed Savior.That's when I took a stand. I left the world all together, and Omega chose and still chooses to be a part of that world.

Jerod
Cool, we don't need friends that would leave you when your wrong and need help. Not real Christian like to me.

Min. H
Leaving debauchery, lasciviousness, self-exaltation, haughtiness, etc. is exactly what I left. Now that's very Christlike!

Re: Lengthy Guestbook Posts

Jerod
Once again, your attitude in this letter proves your issues. I did say I don't agree with everything that Omega does, But I work to change those things. You said that there are some good in these org, with that being the case, why try to destroy them???????????

Min. H
I cannot destroy good works. A good work is a good work. You have not given one single disagreement. WHAT IS IT EXACTLY THAT YOU ARE DOING??????????


Jerod
If you feel the rituals are bad, them work to change them. I have much RESPECT. I am a MAN first, my view of the frat is different than yours.

Min. H
Let's work together and change them. Send me all of your issues with it, and I will go from there.

Jerod
And you pledged, Not all men can stand when it comes to enduring things. That's from the Bible, when Jesus was betrayed, and for those who will wear the mark of the beast. Because they will not endure for Jesus. ENDURANCE is not just take a beating, it's making it past any troubled times. You are so caught up with hating Omega cause you were not man enough to change it or be accepted. You try to destroy other org as well. Get a better plan together and change things.

Min. H
I can't remember the last time giving the devil a face lift changed his ways.


Jerod
The orgs are here to stay, the work they do are here to stay.

Min. H
So is Islam, Jehovah's Witnesses, Theosophy, Voodoo, etc. and the work they do is here and flourishing.

Jerod
And there are people that have prayed to God for help, orgs, groups. churches, and individual people are tools that God uses to help people. You are to focus(ed) on negative things. Cause my Father takes the bad and turn it around for the good.


Min. H
Omega has had 97 years to turn it around.

Jerod
If you want to be Christ like, try that. I get you don't agree with the rituals, and that's really the only problem I see you talking about.

Min. H
It is because of Omega's teacing that it cannot effectively perform its Christian duties. If you start an Evangelism ministry, guess what, so can the mulsims? Muslim Omegas for Allah!!!!!!!!!!!!! Guess what, they do just that at a certain HBCU.

Jerod
Work to change them. If you feel this is your calling them go for it, but there is a better way to go about it. Active member have voices in the frat. IF you and these EX-MEMBERS have problem go to the meeting and work to change things.

Min. H
Jerod- That is exactly where I started, but according to you, you will not even dialogue with me about it. You need to change your stand.


Jerod
All your doing right now is trying to devalue the work and the true intent the frat was meant for. By the way, you left the org cause of your views, your action should be to right the wrongs. Because the truth is no matter how bad you think these org are, YOU WILL NEVER DESTROY A TOOL GOD USE FOR GOOD.

Min. H
I do not agree with the all caps in any shape, form, or fashion. Destroy the works of the devil.


Jerod
To put it like this, when you help some one, do they see you as helping them or God? They see you but you do it cause God put it in your heart to do good for others, and I get to God be the Glory but you feel good about doing something for other as well..

Min. H
You assume that all do it to get God's glory.


Jerod
There are some people in these org that have a heart just like yours. No matter if you like org or not God use these tools to help people. Not even your issues with Omega can hide that from you.

Min. H
Never denied a scholarship, voter registration, blood drive was bad. It's just this shaky foundation that these organization stands on, while claiming to be founded upon Christian Principles.

CAN YOU NAME SOME CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLES OMEGA IS FOUNDED UPON?

Re: Lengthy Guestbook Posts

Min. H- A portion of this response was cut due to the repititive nature of the statemnts.

Jerod
They say he's a good man and God is blessing him to be a blessing to others. Just as we do, we just do it with a group of guys in the same org. And i have heard many of times God bless you guys, we need this help, for God has showed them favor and bless them through action of other individual, groups, and orgs. Your so caught up in the rituals until your blinded by the work that these do. Forget a ritual what about what's in these people heart to help other. Their were alot of guys who yes wanted to pledge for wrong reasons. My question is what about that kid on the wrong path, how can you help change him, what about the kids who just can't seem to get that math homework down right, how can you help him. Just somethings I ask people that see me and think all we do is step, wear gold boots, and party. We had the highest graduation rate at my college, put the most money up for kids who want to go to college, and just as much community serve as the next person in my area. So what you feel is evil, God uses for good. You must admit that there are some good guys in these orgs even if you do not agree with their process.

Min. H
Now I would like all people who read this, e-mail me, or if you have the password to post, what is missing here, and throughout ALL OF HIS POSTS.

I am amazed at the one thing that is really missing in all of his comments aboout Omega being a tool for God and helping people.

I will post an answer after 5 days unless certain other criteria are met.

Re: Lengthy Guestbook Posts

Jerod did not want to answer the tough questions posed to him, and as I suspected, there will be NO MEETING with anyone. In his last e-mail to me, he made it seem as if he was the only person that would be there. Jerod had no choice but to back out. I asked him to bring others along to this meeting, but he refused with the typical dick and dodge tactics of Greeks.
Here's how it went.........

Min. H

Surprised you haven't responded. Basically, if you want me to do something, other than what I am already doing, set up a meeting with the necessary people, such as the Chaplain, KRS, yourself, other Omega clergy, etc.
919/278-8911 after 6:00 p.m.

Note: The KRS is the Keeper of Records and Seals. He basically keeps up with all documentation in the fraternity.

Jerod
No need for me to respond. The way you want the Frat to change, i'm not seeing that point. I'm doing what it is I need to do and you do what you feel you need to do. No need to reply cause we will never see each other point.

Min. H
One thing is evident, you NEVER pointed out any of the wrong or evil stuff, including the pledge process, but that would be self-defeating, [because you were a willing participant]. Therefore, your entire dialogue was really useless because you had no real intent on solving anything, but nonetheless, I appreciate the whole dialogue. I believe people who read it are smart enough to see who's really willing to do something and who's not. [You never even said what it is you were actually doing]. You actually proved my point in my responses that you were not really sincere about doing anything.

To all who want to know some of the things I would have presented at such a meeting, here we go;

Purpose:
1.) To bring to light the Biblical Worldview on Omega Psi Phi.
2.) How to bring Omega into line as an organization, with the Biblical Worldview.
3.) What actions to take to ensure that either
a.)the Biblical Worldview alone be represented in Omega (Omega literllay becomes a Christian Fellowship. All omegas who refuse to accept Jesus as Lord and Savior and live lives accountable to the Holy Scriptures, your membership is forfeited), or

b.) that it becomes completely service driven like the NAACP or Urban League (i.e. no rituals, brotherhood, secrecy, etc.)

Referring to part a, the name of the organization would certainly have to be modified, understanding full well that members unwilling to accept Christ will make their own brothers. So unless the fraternity name could be dissolved, and the name never be used again, as Omega Psi Phi Fraternity, Inc.

Procedure:
1.) Just as easily and quickly the pledge clubs were abolished, so could all the rituals become annals of the organization, including its abolishment, or change in becoming a fellowship, or purely service organization with no rituals, no pledging, or oath-taking.

Conclusion:
1.) You would have a new organization called Omega Fellowship. Born Again Christian Only membership. Chief Obejctive- Soul Winning or,
2.) be called Brotherhood for a Better Community. Joining Fee- $20

3.) The purpose of either said organizations will have all of its literature open to anyone to read.
NO SECRECY!!!!!!!!



DO YOU HEAR THAT BLACK CHURCH PASTORS????

This would only be a part of the meeting, or it could be taken care of just that easy. The key to understanding why this would be probably impossible to do lies in the facts of the differences of what benefits are gained from being a fraternity as opposed to a non-secret service organization, or a TRUE CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP!!!!!!!!!!!! CAN ANYONE NAME THE DIFFERENCES? IF YOU CAN, YOU WILL FIND THE DEMONIC ROOTS AND EVIL FRUITS OF THE ORGANIZATION.

The differences are-
You all go ahead,
1.)