Fred,



Oppression is defined as the exercise of authority or power in such a way to cause troubles, adverse conditions, or stress in a cruel or unjust manner. Claiming the position of Minister, basically is saying that God has given you the right and power to take the path you are taking. Ministers are seen as men (and women) of knowledge, and knowledge is power. Therefore influencing people to take the path YOU want them to take.



Your website clearly is trying to use religion to attack social/professional groups. Why? Where does the angst come from? You claim to be a former Greek as well as a former Freemason. I don’t see how being a member of either of these organizations could cause someone to try and attack them with religion. Okay, on the Greek slant, I grant that every organization is their own different entity, and in some cases, hazing may go on. Fortunately for me, I am a member of a GLO that is anti-hazing, and I can state that not once was I *ever* demeaned during the joining the process. Yes, I did get teased a little, but that just came as things come. My GLO chapter is very close knit, and by that, I mean the members as well as the alumni.



Back in 1999 when I first started college, I rushed Triangle at Marquette. This was before hazing was considered a crime as far as I know. Even without that hanging over their head – I never felt like I was being demeaned. In fact, even after rush and I was unable to join because at 17 years old I had changed my priorities to women and parties and forgot about class... the fraternity offered to let me spend the holidays at their house since I couldn’t afford the money to get back home. They tried to tutor me and help me get on track with my education. To this day I am still in constant contact with the internal vice president of the chapter from back then.



I’m not going to say ALL GLOs are as great as the two I have direct experience with. And with Freemasonry, well every great organization has been known to have a few bad apples slip through the cracks. After all, we had Bush for a president...”Christianity” has the “Reverend” Jesse Jackson... Saudi Arabia’s ruling family produced Osama Bin Laden... in the end, we are all just human, and as such we are not infallible. However to judge the many because of the few is very un-Christianlike.



Also, your bible contradictions link on your website is broken. I find that slightly amusing considering the links demeaning GLOs are in perfect working order.



Regards,

Nick

NICK
"Fred,

Oppression is defined as the exercise of authority or power in such a way to cause troubles, adverse conditions, or stress in a cruel or unjust manner. Claiming the position of Minister, basically is saying that God has given you the right and power to take the path you are taking."


Min. H
God has given me no such right or power. It is a privilege. I want people to study what I say, critique it, and provide feedback. I want those who agree with me to be my strongest critics. Sorry, but you give me too much credit. AND BY THE WAY, I STARTED THIS 6 YEARS BEFORE I BECAME A MINISTER.




NICK
Ministers are seen as men (and women) of knowledge, and knowledge is power. Therefore influencing people to take the path YOU want them to take.



Min. H
Ah Nickson, you have proven to be hypocritical or at the least fork-tongued. You admittedly denied the Christian faith, so how much power/knowledge do we really possess?




NICK
Your website clearly is trying to use religion to attack social/professional groups. Why? Where does the angst come from? You claim to be a former Greek as well as a former Freemason. I don’t see how being a member of either of these organizations could cause someone to try and attack them with religion.




Min. H
I am not attacking with religion, but simply providing a Biblical Worldview. It is the organizations that are skewed away from the Biblical Worldview. Actually, you have attacked Christianity and its adherents with your blasphemous claim and hidden insult for us believing Jesus is the only way. Now what would make you do that???????????

"Unless of course, you're referring to the closed-minded Christians who believe that THEIR way is the only way" Nick






NICK
Okay, on the Greek slant, I grant that every organization is their own different entity, and in some cases, hazing may go on. Fortunately for me, I am a member of a GLO that is anti-hazing, and I can state that not once was I *ever* demeaned during the joining the process. Yes, I did get teased a little, but that just came as things come. My GLO chapter is very close knit, and by that, I mean the members as well as the alumni.


Min. H
Since you will probably never tell all what happened, I will trust that you are being honest. And by the way, allow me to brush up on the Triangle's Ritual. so I can better reply to any problems it may have.




Nick
Back in 1999 when I first started college, I rushed Triangle at Marquette. This was before hazing was considered a crime as far as I know. Even without that hanging over their head – I never felt like I was being demeaned. In fact, even after rush and I was unable to join because at 17 years old I had changed my priorities to women and parties and forgot about class... the fraternity offered to let me spend the holidays at their house since I couldn’t afford the money to get back home. They tried to tutor me and help me get on track with my education. To this day I am still in constant contact with the internal vice president of the chapter from back then.



I’m not going to say ALL GLOs are as great as the two I have direct experience with. And with Freemasonry, well every great organization has been known to have a few bad apples slip through the cracks.




Min. H
It's not the few bad apples here. When an organization allows unbelievers to join, there are plenty of bad apples. Jesus is the one to be followed, can you lay any sin to His Name. If anyone practices sin, are they a Christian? As for FM, it is not all that great. It's demonic tones start in the very first degree. I never have to go any further than that degree to make my point.




Nick
After all, we had Bush for a president...”Christianity” has the “Reverend” Jesse Jackson... Saudi Arabia’s ruling family produced Osama Bin Laden... in the end, we are all just human, and as such we are not infallible. However to judge the many because of the few is very un-Christianlike.



Min. H
You judged every Christian for believing John 14:6. And you're right, we are just human. That's why Jesus provided himself as a sacrifice for us. If fraternities are supposed to teach you anything, it is sacrificing yourself for other brothers, yet while we were SINNERS, Christ died for us. (Romans 5)




Nick
Also, your bible contradictions link on your website is broken. I find that slightly amusing considering the links demeaning GLOs are in perfect working order.


Min. H
LOL- That link exposed (NOT DEMEANED) the fallacies of GLO's as well.



Regards,

Nick