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Sorority questions

Min. H-
I've never come across a site quite like this one and I did look for others. I found one of an Omega who was a minister and he posted an essay about being a Greek Christian. Basically his conclusion was that it was okay as long as the Christian member abstained from sinful activities if approached to participate.
Yes, I am saved, but I do have an interest in Sigma Gamma Rho. I've been doing my research and can only find information about the history.
I've looked at things more closely like their shield and symbols.
Do you have any idea what the skull head on the shield means? I've asked a few Sigmas if there were any practices in Sigma that would not correlate with Christianity and other christian Sigma women said 'absolutely not." I am studying the word for myself. Sigma seems to be okay so far.
Thanks.

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I've posted this on the juanita Bynum site, and felt led to post it yet again -- for it is applicable in the young ladies questions about GLO's.
I was a Zeta for 9 years, and in March 2001 God took the scales from my eyes. I was visiting my hometown and had brought all of my paraphernalia to wear for when I hooked up with my Sorors. It was a personal experience from God that led me to not only throw away all the Zeta stuff I had packed on my trip, but thousands of dollars of stuff when I got home. I threw away the Official Pin, every award (And I had several), plaque, trophy, or certificate, absolutely anything that I had received in the name of Zeta. And I haven’t looked back. I help start other chapters; I was even a Vice-Regional Director for NPHC. And I had held every office in Zeta from local Basileus (President), to several regional committee positions. I was Zeta of the Year, Greek Woman of the Year twice, Regional Distinguished Member of the year, and the list goes on. And I joined Zeta for all the right reasons. I really had a heart for serving the community.
A relationship with God calls us to allow Him to take away anything that is a stumbling block. The word Pornography derived from the Latin word “Pornia” which means to lust with the eye. That’s where sin starts, thus God telling us to bring our thoughts into submission. The sad thing about GLO’s is that they are literally cesspools for breaking every commandment in the good book. We live in a fallen world, so of course human demise is attributed to sin that come through many venues. But it begins with setting our eyes on getting attention, to want to be a part of something, to want to be in a sisterhood/brotherhood, to make a college connection, to serve the community – all of which, in themselves are not necessarily bad. BUT, how does the enemy operate? He moves in on your weakness. Serving in the name of a GLO, slowly turns into neglecting bible study and not making it to church (In all thy getting, get thee understanding…), becoming self-absorbed (men shall be lovers of themselves…), pride, (pride goeth before a fall…) the going to parties where you are “backing that thing up”(do I really need to quote a scripture for that one?), alcohol addiction, sexual immorality, rape, (flee sexual immorality and sinful lusts…), taking oaths in the name of Service and Sisterhood with your hand on a bible (Take no oath, let your yes be yes and your no be no...) And by the way do you think that God, who from His own mouth proclaims to be a jealous God would have us do community service, practice love toward brethren, etc in any name but HIS (I am the way the truth and the life, no man cometh to the father but by ME…).
And don’t be fooled, the ungodly lifestyle gets worse in these Alumni chapters. There, have I witnessed some of the worst of the alcoholism, abuse, sexual immorality, profanities, high divorce rates, etc – when the business meetings are over there are not many Christian Alumni examples to look to. (Older women/men should teach the young…).
Elihu speaks in the book of Job saying:
12 Behold, in this thou art not just: I will answer thee, that God is greater than man. 13 Why dost thou strive against him? for he giveth not account of any of his matters. 14 For God speaketh once, yea twice, yet man perceiveth it not. 15 In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falleth upon men, in slumberings upon the bed; 16 Then he openeth the ears of men, and sealeth their instruction, 17 That he may withdraw man from his purpose, and hide pride from man. 18 He keepeth back his soul from the pit, and his life from perishing by the sword. 23 If there be a messenger with him, an interpreter, one among a thousand, to shew unto man his uprightness: 24 Then he is gracious unto him, and saith, Deliver him from going down to the pit: I have found a ransom. Job 33:12-24
If we really understood why the Greek culture was such an abomination to the Lord during biblical times, we wouldn’t even want to take up the letters to our chests. The Greek system of idol worship, mythology, philosophy, orgies, homosexuality…. – My friends Satan takes the obvious and makes us think it’s good, just so he can go and accuse us to the Father, and what fools he has made of us. We are still being lured like Eve in the garden, and it’s easier for the enemy than we would like to think. Satan has one trick and one only – to get us to find good in evil. We have to die daily to flesh, and submit ourselves to God’s Will in our lives. He will exalt us in due season if we yield ourselves to Him. He is speaking to us always, but we have to be willing to seek the still small voice that guides our every step, not just in the matter of GLO’s, but also in regard to our lives

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Sorority Answers:
You can't know what they "will not" tell you.


New Sorors Repeat in unison) "I pledge myself to this Sorority to be true to its code, obey its rulings and keep faith with my sisters."

Notice here and throughout, the constant confession of loyalty to SGRho. This is what leads to and really is idolatry.

"To thee only, Sigma Gamma Rho, I pledge my life, my best efforts and cooperation. In thee I pin my faith, hope and trust, so that the Order of Sigma Gamma Rho shall be a beacon light to all womankind who are interested in every phase of education. I therefore dedicate the best that is within me to further its cause. In no way will I so demean myself that my actions will reflect negatively upon this sorority. By each soror will I play the true part of sister. By each sister will I stand until the end. Within thee, O Sigma Gamma Rho, will I find the inspiration for the making of a fine and true character."

Read Luke 10:27-28/I Corinthians 10:31/Colossians 3:17/Matthew 5:14, 16

"In no way will I so demean myself that my actions will reflect negatively upon this sorority. "

Are fornication, shacking up, a LITTLE profanity, etc. considered demeaning in SGRho? It happens all the time among sinners in these organizations. I have proof that greeks speak immoral, sexually suggestive, sparing no profanity type things freely with no disapproval from the "SO-CALLED" Christians on the message board. WWW.STEPSHOW.COM which is no longer active is the place to find such foolishness. I recorded alot on disk. It is obvious to see that when one joins that they are making a covenant. This puts the Christian in an unequally yoked situation. You may not actually partake in these sins, but your are more than just friends with these girls, you are claiming an even deeper relationship of siterhood. These GLO's condone and often encourage SIN. How could they deny such, when they willingly ALLOW sinners to join. Read II Timothy 2:19/Colossians 3 about what to put on and off.

Let's here what SGRho has to say about eternal life for THEIR sisters.

"The future's fairer than the past if only we believe
And trust in God's eternal care - So when the Master calls

Let's say that life is still more fair Although the curtain falls.

Basileus Puts out the light of one of her candles)

We, the Sorors of Chapter, Sigma Gamma Rho Sorority, are saddened, by the loss of our Soror who has been taken from us for a little while, but still ours to love and to remember. As the light of this candle is gone, so is the light of her life from our sorority. In the spirit of eternal love and sisterhood, we do commit this our Soror to Omega Rho, our chapter of departed Sorors.


Prayer­

Kind Heavenly Father, help us to bear the loss of our soror in the knowledge that Thou has claimed her spirit to be with Thine."

In alot of these passages, one assumes or must assume that an SGRho is saved with or without a relationship with Jesus Christ.

I am available for comment @ 919/749-2003. I encourage atleast one phone conversation. Ten times as much can be covered in a phone call.

Let Jesus Be Glorified

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First I wanted to say that I appreciate both responses. God has been dealing with me all night about my post and led me to seek answers, and you gave them to me with no holds barred.

Pledging is whatI wanted to do for a long time but I never really let God into my decision completely until now. I want to belong to something that seemed to be a good thing. The Holy Spirit revealed to me about my pursuit that I am being double minded. On one hand, I want to please God. On the other hand, I still want to please God but I want what I want, Know what I mean?

When I looked at the oath or lines to be recited that you posted, the first thing that popped into my mind was saying that I pledged my life to Sigma would mean that I would in fact be controlled to a degree by Sigma or that I would be trying to split my service between God and Sigma.

Like, what if I'm doing a ministry work and Sigma calls me up and said "be at the car wash at 10 a.m. etc." instead? What would I do???

I kept doing more searching on my own and I noticed that alot of the women will post their names at the end of e-mails or posts on forums and write their names and then "born into Sigma through the XX Chapter on XX date."

I didn't know what "born into" meant but as a saved woman, the only born again experience I know of is when I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and savior.

I have stopped my pursuit of joining a sorority as of today because I have no peace about it anymore. I really am attracted to their programs and the "sisterhood" but I'm scared of God and afraid to say that I will pledge my life to an organization that when I'm sick or need, can't heal me or help me anyway. I'm tired of jumping back and forth with this. Going back to it with what I know now will no doubt course me. Its like a kid going back to a hot stove after touching it and getting burned only to touch it again!

Lastly, I was led to read Psalms 146:3 this morning which said don't put your trust in man. The oath said "In thee (Sigma) I put my trust and a new hope." I immediately said I would be telling Sigma and God and all the witnessess a flat out lie if I recited that.

I shared this information with my loved one and he said, "what if you would have gotten accepted,paid your dues, and then found out you had to recite this stuff--better that you learned now than later."

The bottom line is you don't know until you know. I am able to see the parallel in God's word for MYSELF! I've asked other Christains and they said it was cool but now I can see things straight out of God's Word for myself. You can't put your trust in other Christians but I looked up the scriptures you gave for myself and got the revelation straight from God.

Thank you Min. Hatchett and the other lady who posted. Because I now have a teachable spirit, I am able to see this thing for what it really is.

I'm not really sad because of what I know, now I just have to ask God to fill that spot where my desire for Sigma was.

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Praise God for your desire to understand His nature and what He truly desires for His people. From your choice of words, I could tell that you desire to be faithful. Yes, you are teachable - the very thing that brings us into an intimate relationship with Him. The disciples were very unlearned, but because of their teachable spirits - many went on to do great works in the name of Jesus - drawing others to His light. God bless you sister Ella. May God continue to bless you exceedingly abundantly as you continue to thirst and hunger for His word.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Sorority questionsWhy I Need RITUALS

This is why I need rituals. Ella may have never made a decision not to join without actually seeing what was written. Then after getting into the pledge process, may have been so engrossed in the sorority only to ignore such foul idolatry. I want to thank the person for the SGRho ritual she gave me. It has been used for the purpose intended.

AKA, APHIA, Phi Beta Sigma, Kappa Alpha Psi, are the rituals of the BGLO's I need. I have a handful of white GLO rituals- Pi Kappa Alpha, Sigma Phi Epsilon, Sigma Alpha Epsilon, Sigma Chi, and Kappa Kappa Gamma. I have partial rituals from other GLO's. Any ritual will do.

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I truly feel sorry for the week minded that are being sucked in to the world of the creator of this site. As a person with life experiences I know that you can not take everything at face value. The information on this site is random and only displays bits and pieces of information placed together to lean toward some point. Have you believers every wondered how people on two sides of many arguments both are able to use Bible verses to justify their argument? This is because with the Bible, as with any ritual, if a part is taken out of context it can be twisted and turned to mean anything. As a member of Sigma Gamma Rho Sorority, Inc. I do many things in the name of Sigma. That is to say I am doing them as a member of my sorority, and not Delta, AKA, Zeta, or any other GLO. That does not mean I am putting my sorority before God. I have a personal relationship with my God and there is nothing going to change that no matter what organization I am a member of.

My question to the creator of this site; How Godly is it to pass gossip to thousands of people?

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For those of you who feeling this gentlemen is out of order why do you take the time to post? It is not your website he is not forcing you to visit. Many of the post is read on here from time to time are posted out of guilt. Remember every rumor is based on a truth. You may not have come across many of the things Minister Hatchett is speaking on, but so many people have GLO member/non-members. If you don't have anything to hide why worry? Heck most of you don't really know that much more about your org other than your Founders names. Now before you all get salty and give everyone the story about how you know your organization do some real in depth research about your shield, your colors, your hymn, your handshakes and indicators and let this site rest.