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Lengthy Guestbook Posts

pcraven@brenau.edu wrote:this website is absolutely awful. no where in the bible does it say it's okay to persecute anyone (verbally or physically). this is just like the salem witch trials where men and women pointed fingers and cried sadism.

Min. H
A primary problem with the Salem witch trials was lack of evidence. Who am I persecuting? I do not think practicing witchcraft deserves the death penalty, unless it involves human sacrifice. Witches have already incurred the ultimate death penalty if they don't repent. But according to your statements below, you have NO PROBLEM with your sororities policy of pluralism. So soror witch, Christian, etc. is just as welcome as soror Buddhist?

Paige
the organization i am affiliated does not haze and my initiation process was entirely respecatble and safe. never did i feel threatened or abuse. also, we have standards we must uphold that would never allow for filming each other having sex.

Min. H
Whoa! Where did the sex thing come from? That's great; I am glad you went paper.

Paige
on another note: why must you expose rituals or ceremonies? i have never participated in a ceremony that made me question my faith in God or my loyalty in him. we are all allowed as individuals to choose our spiritual affiliation and beliefs, and any reference to greece or greek culture is simply a mediphore for what we really stand for. we do not worship anything or anyone when we gather, and we do not haze.

Min. H "we are all allowed as individuals to choose our spiritual affiliation and beliefs" paigeSo, that means you have no problem being unequally yoked with unbelievers. "That made me question my faith." paige

Are you sure? Obama would probably say the same thing about believing in abortion. These metaphors do not teach that the only way to God is through Jesus Christ, and you seem to have no problem with this premise.

Paige
i honestly don't see where u can make your accusations, but all i can say is that you are certainly not like any christian i want to strive to be. i refuse to be a hell fire and brimstone christian, but will opt to strive to be more like Jesus himself by offering my help, support, and love to all of the people around me even if they are not christians.

Min. H
Let me show you my Jesus
John 8
44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Matthew 23:33
Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the ****ation of hell? When you show love that means telling them the awful truth that awaits them if they do not accept Jesus. These are your sisters, right?


Paige
i pray that God will have mercy on your poor soul and you will one day realize where you are very wrong sir. Min. HWrong about what? God had mercy on my soul. He did it at the cross, but seemingly you, nor your sorority care if some of your sorors go to hell. Thank-You,Paige

Let Jesus Be Glorified by you,

John 12:32

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Re: Lengthy Guestbook Posts

ark_country_angel@hotmail.com
I am a holyghost filled, fire-baptized believer in t he Lord and Savior Jesus christ...
To try and persuade others that Greek affiliations are bogus, is clearly unfounded my brother - I so totally respect your 'trying' to create a path, that will clearly not hold water... Seems like you're trying to do this only for your monetary gain - by selling T-Shirts and unfounded persuasion about Greekdom -

Min. H
About this Holy Ghost Filled, Fire Baptized, I assume you mean speaking in ecstatic gibberish. About my path that will not hold water, you give no explanation. About your assumption that I am in it for monetary gain, I could easily get rich off of selling rituals, but guess what, none are in PUBLIC DOMAIN, and money is not my object. So your words are as empty concerning that issue are empty.

Ark angel
Scriptures are part of the rituals - it's substantiated -

Min. H
WHAT is substantiated? Scriptures are in lots of documents, including the Masonic Ritual. So what's your point?

Ark Angel
Maybe you feel scorned after not being accepted while you were attending college or maybe you didn't attend - Whatever your story, it will not stand -

Min. H
My story stands, you can read it in my testimony in the forum. I was a five year member of Omega. NUFF SAID!

Ark Angel
AKA, DST, ZphiB and the rest have done so much in the name of God to restore life to the impoverished and hopeless - I trust that you are not solely making your assumptions based on 'stepping' and chanting - We do so much more than that -

Min. H
AKA- Dorothy Ferebee/Faye Wattleton did much to help DESTROY LIFE.......DST- Hortense Canady introduces Witchcraft to DST under her watch. Bishop Vashti McKenzie endorses fornication and adultery as National Chaplain........ZphiB- Zora Neale Hurston becomes a voodoo priestess........Dionne Warwick and Esther Rolle get into support the propheliars like Cleo (talk about getting paid).

Ark Angel
With those we've helped and put through college to make a better life for themselves, I believe you may need to be 'schooled' to get a better understanding, as opposed to picking the good work apart of those who strive for a better livelihood for those who may have lost hope -

Min. H
A better livelihood without Jesus is just another sincere sinner going to hell.

Ark Angel
May God Bless you and guide you to a deeper understanding and revelation in him -
Remember, God does not like those who are self-serving - He adores those who worship him in spirit and in TRUTH...
Tetra.

Min. H
If you believe that so much, why didn't you place your pledge on here? Why did you not explain the degrees you went through and the things you said? Did you even have to learn the initiation hymn? Bring your info to the table please.

By the way, did you know that AKA had a no hazing policy since atleast 1977? Tell me why hazing, according to their policy, was being performed on pledges publicly all over the U.S.?

Let Jesus Be Glorified by you,

John 12:32

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Re: Lengthy Guestbook Posts

theeternal2000@yahoo.com- Andre
I will keep this short cause I have been in many of these forums and I am tired. No I do not defend Greek letter organizations as a Kappa, I defend them as believer first and a Kappa. The problem with this whole thing is that yes, there are a lot of things that GLO's can change and improve, no doubt about that. But they are an organization made up of people with similar beliefs but different interpretations of that belief.

Min. H
You are either lying or unaware. And please do not try and say that these similar beliefs center around Jesus.

Andre
Just like you who started this page have your own interpretation of the bible. You go to your church, your denomination or respective place and learn a particular view of the bible.

Min. H
You are wrong. Truth has a way of standing the test of time, attacks, scrutiny, unbelief, etc. So I tend to stay away from traditions, fables, etc. EXAMPLE- The THREE wise men! No proof to say how many..........

Andre
Yes there are some FANTASY rituals in Kappa...I can only speak for me though.

Min. H
These are real rituals, practiced in many ancient, pagan cultures. My problem is if they are just FANTASY, then why does Kappa go through the painstaking task of explaining waht they mean?

Andre
I had a great spiritual foundation when pledging so the FAKE ritualistic stuff I knew was imaginary and it never made me question my belief system. I never did anything or said anything I did not want to. The stuff is FAKE people...

Min. H
People- Andre has obviously done the honorable thing of going paper. He did not endure a pledge process that involved paddling, slapping, punching, etc. for which he should be commended. Praise God!

Andre
However again I have seen people get into GLO's and go buck wild and let the popularity and praise consume them. Then denounce and blame their personal actions on the fraternity of sorority. That is a disservice.

Min. H
It still does not explain the fact that Kappa Alpha Psi has idolatrous rituals, anti-Christian teachings, etc. So, who is to blame? Even, the devil made me do it is not an excuse, but the devil INFLUENCES, and Kappa Alpha Psi does nothing to stop Satan's influence on people. Who influenced KAPPAS to start a brutal pledge process? Yeah! Answer that question please...........Who influenced your founder, Elder Watson Diggs to write the ritual?

Andre
I know Christ and always will, it's how I choose to use all the information I have learned in my life, Pledging included, that makes me who I am.

Min. H
So you did pledge? Hmmmmm!!!!! Was Jesus pleased with your process?

Andre
It is my interpretation of the Word that keeps me, even still as A Kappa Alpha Psi, keeper of Phi Nu Pi realizing that amougnst the muck that our current society has brought into the organization God/Jesus was always meant to be the head of our organization.

Min. H
This is a lie whether you know it or not. Diggs brought the muck into it since 1911. God/Jesus!!!!!!!! Come on man, I have had a Kappa Historian debunk that myth. If you read some history, you would see that is a false statement with no historical premise. How did you come to that conclusion? When did this so-called muck of our current society begin? 1980's, 1990's, 2000's???? I have seen where they place Jesus Christ, and it is not at the head. PLEASE EXPLAIN THE MEANING OF THE ARE AND SPEAR? WHAT HAPPENS IN THE RITUAL, THEN THE EXPLANATION OF ITS MEANING FROM THE RITUAL.

Andre
By the way Undergraduate greek life and graduate greek life are sooooooo different. I pray to God before and after every meeting.

Min. H
Why? Doesn't your chapter do that?

Let Jesus Be Glorified by you,

John 12:32
919/278-8911 is my number

Re: Lengthy Guestbook Posts

Reesha
First of all, Clearly, it was a DELTA who violated protocols and procedures and the code of conduct by putting this information out on the WORLD WIDE WEB...

Min. H
How can a non-member violate any of those things?

Reesha
secondly, yes, we know that Delta used 1 Corinthians for the closing part of a chapter meeting... Delta is an organization founded on Christian principles, but we also allow women of other faiths to join us because we are here for one purpose, and that is to serve our communities... there are many people of different nationalities and faiths, and even those who don't believe in anything at all who have a heart for people... that are willing and able to work to make this world a better place!

Min. H
This is the very compromising spirit and policy that keeps DST from performing certain programs and participating in demonic rituals. So then your organization can be called pluralistic, universalist, or one where Jesus is not exalted to His proper place? So Jesus Christ is not the foundation, so all other ground, including DST, is sinking sand.

I Corinthians 3:10-11
10According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
11For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.


Reesha
As Christians, it is our duty to spread the good news of Christ to all people... that we not judge others, but that we live righteously... Delta is a vehicle that has the power to touch all types of people and we are using it... Everyone knows that our org was founded on Christian principle and if there are women out there who still feel a connection to Delta even if they don't believe in the Christian principles, but the over all substance of the org, than so be it... they will be stuck with hearing and being involved with Christian sayings and passages throughout the org because that's who we are... that's just a choice that they have to make....

Min. H
So I guess the Christians have to be stuck with having to go through DST's witchcraft ritual of earth, air, fire, and water???????????? and celebrate that abomination called Kwanzaa. This is what I meant above about compromising.

Reesha
It upsets me that this email is being passed around... our business, and secrets, and traditions are becoming just words instead of a lifestyle and something sacred! How dare they put this information out!!!!!! When I was president, I took pride EVERY TIME I read these words aloud in meetings and to see them floating around on the internet is totally absurd to me.

~Reesha L. Archibald, MBA
Alpha Theta Chapter- Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc.
Sp. '02 #26

Min. H
Name ONE Christian Principle please.........
Minister Fred Hatchett, Iota Iota Chapter- Omega Psi Phi Fraternity, Inc., Spr. 90 #6, X-Omega

Let Jesus Be Glorified by you,

John 12:32

Re: Lengthy Guestbook Posts/PENELOPE

Penelope,

I have a few things to say and question.......... FIRST AND FOREMOST...........If you disagree so much with GREEK LETTER ORGANIZATIONS then why is it MY BROTHA THAT YOU ARE STILL AT LEAST SOMEWHAT ASSOCIATING YOURSELF WITH THEM? (i.e. placing the name of the org. in which you STILL AFFILIATE OR DONT AFFILIATE, I myself am not quite sure, pledged, the chapter name and your line number???!?????!!!@!? I.E......Minister Fred Hatchett, Iota Iota Chapter- Omega Psi Phi Fraternity, Inc., Spr. 90 #6, X-Omega) That's my first question.

Min. H
Getting saved means that I was a sinner. I have changed my state of being, but the past fact remains. I actually had a specific reason for placing all that in there, as a response to a previous post. I do not use it as a common calling card.

I Corinthians 6
9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Sorry- No unequal yoking here........

Penelope
Secondly, MY BROTHA, why is it that you are bashing so much the GLO's? Do you not realize that GLO's extend far beyond the DIVINE 9, PANHELLINIC COUNCIL (i.e. kappa kappa gamma, pi kappa alpha, phi beta pi, etc.), multicultural greeks (i.e. lamda theta phi, lamdda theta alpha, sigma lambda beta, etc.) or basically COMMON KNOWN SERVICE AND SOCIAL ORGS? You also have ACADEMIC AND SCHOLARLY ORGS. and just for you PERSONAL AMUSEMENT...........RELIGIOUS BASED ORGS (i.e. CHRISTIAN ORGANIZATIONS)!?!?!?! CHI ALPHA to be exact IS A PROMINENT AND, IN MY OPINION, GREAT ORGANIZATION THAT DOES A LOT FOR THE COMMUNITY in which you know MY BROTHA are OUR BROTHAS AND SISTAS IN THE NAME OF CHRIST! just to name a few........

Min. H
Chi Alpha DOES NOT call itself a GLO. Chi Alpha and ASUF are the only organizations I publicly give props to. Neither are Greek Organizations........ I am currently compiling a work that will deal with what I know. If you check my forum, I have dealt with some NPC orgs. I have white friends who have denounced, and deal with GLO's. I would imagine they would deal with their own color of people for the most part, and others when necessary. One thing should strike you as odd. The BGLO members seem to be the ones most bothered by being exposed. WHY?

I take organizations one at a time. If I know nothing of them, then I say nothing about them. I simply tell people to look for the common signs of ungodly organizations, such as altar worship, exaltation of gods, improper oath taking, etc. As for o

Penelope
So you are definately IMPLYING that ALL GLO'S are DEMONIC in some way shape or form! AND YOU DONT SEEM TO FIND THAT DISTURBING??!! !??!

Min. H
No! You are making that assumption.

Penelope
IS IT NOT TRUE THAT SOME CHURCHES ARE GUILTY OF PRACTICING THESE "SO CALLED" DEMONIC RITUALS AND DEMONIC TEACHINGS THAT YOU SAY ARE SO PREVALENT IN GLO'S?

Min. H
Have you not seen my most current posts? Instead of people trying to join GLO's to get them straight, Christians need to stay in church and help get them straight. As much energy as they use defending obvious evil in demonic based organizations, they could be using that to help their churches.

Penelope
DO YOU FORGET THAT THE BIBLE, THE BOOK THAT YOU BASE THIS WEBSITE ON, SPEAKS OF BEING CAUTIOUS OF FALSE PROPHECY!?!!?? IT DOES NOT SPECIFY ANY PARTICULAR ORG OR ANYTHING OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER! I AM HIGHLY OFFENDED! SINCE YOU ARE VERY CAUGHT UP IN WHAT AphiA, AKA,KAPsi, OmegaPsiPhi, DST, PhiBetaSigma, ZPhiB, SGRho, IotaPhiTheta are doing SOOOOOO WRONG or better yet placing people business over the national web, I CHARGE YOU MY BROTHER TO PLACE SOME OF YOUR WHAT YOU "DONT LIKE TO CALL" SACRED BUSINESS OVER THE WEB!!!!

Min. H
No false prophet here. I don't even claim to be one. CAN YOU REFUTE ANY THING HERE THAT I HAVE WRITTEN? I have no problem sharing what is truly sacred. Just see, God's Plan For Man on the opening page. I have no problem sharing the fact that I follow a Savior who is viewed as an idiot by the "world". Here is some serious sacred information, Jesus Christ is God in the flesh.

Penelope
You know the chistian flag.......WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF HAVING A CHRISTIAN FLAG IF IT IS SO BAD, seems like to me in your opinion, FOR GLO'S IN GENERAL TO HAVE "SACRED" SHIELDS, MATERIAL, ETC?!?!!? Explain to me, MY BROTHA, why WHEN RELIGIOUS OFFICIALS, in all religous denomiations, have their SECRECY AS WELL?!?!! AND YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE EVERYTHING IN THE CHURCH, my "so" religious brotha, IS NOT REVEALED AND EXPLAINED AS WELL AS FALSE PROPHECY AND DEMONIC TEACHINGS AND RITUALS WITHIN THE CHURCH AS WELL!!!

Min. H
Will you please name those church rituals for me, instead of implying that I know? Please define secrecy, because I have no problem admitting that many churches act just like a GLO. See, you believe I am some one-sided GLO bashing bully. Wrong! I deal with church issues as well. I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DEAL WITH OTHER'S SINFUL BEHAVIOR IN THEIR CHURCHES FROM THE PEW TO THE PASTOR. OH YE! I PRACTICE WHAT I PREACH.


penelope
(and when I mean the church, I am referring to individual as well as collective!!)

Min. H
I deal with individuals as well. I wish there was more accountability among the body of Christ.

Penelope
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH MY SISTA THAT IS A "HOLY GHOST FILLED" ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA ABOUT YOU PROBABLY BEING A LITTLE BITTER ABOUT YOUR GLO EXPERIENCE WHATEVER IT MAY HAVE BEEN.

Min. H
Watch out, I see some FALSE PROPHECY. Rebuke her after getting this. Please explain "HOLY GHOST FILLED"? How does one get this way, and what is the evidence? And you also mean "TITHE-PAYING" also right? Don't leave that out.

My experience in my GLO can be seen in my testimony. No bitterness here, just a realization that has become Don't Go Greek (DGG) or Greek Organizations Have Been Exposed.

Penelope
IF YOU WERE DOING THIS FOR THE BETTER MEANT OF YOUR SPIRITUAL CONVICTIONS YOU WOULD NOT BE CONCERNED WITH JUST ONE CIRCLE OF PEOPLE, ORGS, ETC. YOU WOULD BE TRYING TO CONVICT THOSE OF YOUR OWN KIND AS WELL WHO ARE GUILTY OF THESE DEMONIC CRIMES! I AM NOT SAYING THAT PEOPLE DONT USE PEOPLE, ORGS, ETC. FOR DEVILISH MEANS, NO THAT IS NOT AT ALL WHAT I MEAN, BUT TO STATE THAT THIS PARTICULAR CIRCLE OF DISCUSSION AS A WHOLE AND THE PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT THEM ARE GUILTY "AS A WHOLE" IS COMPLETE AND UTTER FOOLISHNESS! HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THESE PARTICULAR GROUPS OF DISCUSSION WITH A GOD GIVEN PURPOSE ON THEIR MIND FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THEIR PEOPLE, YOU, MY BROTHA, WOULD NOT EVEN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EVEN POST THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE!

Min. H
WRONG! My Brother in Chirst, Minister Jordan Rice is not greek, yet wrote an awesome paper on the BGLO's. Another NON-GREEK, who wrote a book prior to mine, I give God the glory for. GLO's are NOT Christ-Centered. If so, I would still be an Omega, and this site would be GO GREEK. Guys like Thurgood Marshall, Sarah Weddington, Harry Blackmun, Vashti Mckenzie, etc. would have been excommunicated from their organizations UNTIL they repented.

Penelope
I am appalled at you my brotha! KNOW YOUR ROOTS, EVEN IF YOU DONT "SO CALL" CLAIM THEM!!!! but what you believe MY BROTHA......... is what YOU BELIEVE.......... AND BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THESE GREAT ORGS. YOU HAVE THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH.................so use it and continue to speak on what you OBVIOUSLY NEVER LEARNED IN OR OUT OF D9!!!!

Min. H
If you want to claim their orgs had someting to do with freedom of speech, then let's give them credit for ABORTION, SHACKING UP, ELITISM, GREED, HOMOSEXUALITY, ETC. I DIDN'T THINK SO. Most of the "so-called" influential greeks have such sordid pasts, you would not believe. I will leave you with one example.

Zora Neale Hurston- Writer/Poet/VOODOO PRIESTESS
DOES THAT APPALL YOU?




Let Jesus Be Glorified by you,

John 12:32


I then asked these questions. (Min. H)
Thank-You for writing. I will deal with your whole post, point-by-point. First, do you belong to a sorority? Second, what do you mean by Holy Ghost Filled? Are you Holy Ghost Filled? I need these three things before I can adequately respond. Thank-You once again!!!!!! I also asked:
Are you a born again believer? I got so caught up with the brotha/sista thing, so I do not want to leave any assumptions.

After you read my response, can you please answer those important questions so I can adequately respond.

My number is 919/278-8911


Penelope responded
for one........if you are a spiritual man........ then I would first like to answer your question by posing a couple................... WHY IS IT THAT IT IS SO MUCH OF A CONCERN MY SPIRITUAL BELIEFS, VALUES, PREFERENCES, ETC?!!?!!!! (i.e. "Are you a born again believer? I got so caught up with the brotha/sista thing, so I do not want to leave any assumptions. After you read my response, can you please answer those important questions so I can adequately respond.

Min. H
It is important in how I approach you as an individual. If you are born again, the Bible says I can respond in personal judgment of you and your statements. If you are not saved, it is my duty to show you the way, and be aware of my approach for two reasons. Casting pearls before the swine, giving that which is holy before the dogs, and being sure to respond in a way you will understand because your mind has not been renewed.

Penelope
My number is 919/278-8911 Let Jesus Be Glorified by you, John 12:32" THAT YOU SO DISGUISTINGLY LEFT ME IN MY PERSONAL EMAIL WHEN THIS WAS A PUBLIC DEBATE???!?!?!?)

Min. H
I e-mailed you as do I with most people who leave their e-mail addresses!!!! I am from the old school of handshaking, face-to-face, and the last, phone conversation.

Penelope
IF YOU ARE A MAN OF THE CHRIST, as you say, THEN WHY EVEN POSE THIS QUESTION IN THE FIRST PLACE????! YOU SHOULD ALREADY KNOW, VISIONARY!!!!

Min. H
I have never claimed to be a prophet. That's why I asked you the question. Had I claimed you to be one or the other, you could have LIED, right!


Penelope
ANYONE CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY ARE A BELIEVER OF THE CHRIST AND BE LYING THROUGH THEIR TEETH! AM I NOT YOUR SISTA IF I AM NOT A BELIEVER OF THE CHRIST???!!??!

Min. H
I believe the truth would eventually come out, and the LIAR be revealed.


Penelope
THE FACT OF THE MATTER AT HAND IS THAT THE DISCUSSION ITSELF HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH ME AND MY SPIRITUAL BELIEFS!

Min. H
You right! Whether you are saved or not is actually more important.


Penelope
IT IS ABOUT THE DEFENSE OF GLO'S OR THE JUSTIFICATION OF THEIR ASSUMED DEMONIC WAYS! THAT IS THE ISSUE WE ARE DISCUSSING! WHAT WILL YOU SAY TO TRY AND JUSTIFY YOUR POINT IF I TELL YOU I AM A BELIEVER OF THE CHRIST? OR IF I SAY I AM NOT A BELIEVER? SO YOU CANT "ADEQUATELY" POSE JUDGMENT ON MY DISCUSSION IF I DONT ANSWER YOUR IMPORTANT QUESTIONS? LOL! ANSWER THE QUESTIONS OR JUST ALL TOGETHER LET IT GO! FURTHERMORE, I AM A LADY! I DO NOT SEE IT AS APPROPRIATE FOR A MAN OF THE CLOTH TO BE, ONE, LOOSELY GIVING HIS PHONE NUMBER THROUGH EMAIL TO PEOPLE HE DOES NOT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT! IT IS ONE THING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION THROUGH THE WEB, BUT THAT IS MERELY THE MONITOR AND KEYBOARD! NOTHING MORE! DO NOT, AND I REPEAT, DO NOT CONTACT ME EVER AGAIN THROUGH MY PERSONAL EMAIL! YOU DO NOT KNOW ME AND I DO NOT KNOW YOU! THESE DEBATES ARE TO BE PUBLIC AS YOU HAVE MADE THIS WEBSITE AND WILL REMAIN AS SUCH! THAT IS WHAT YOU MADE THE GUESTBOOK AND DISCUSSION FORUM FOR RIGHT????!??!!!!?!?!

Min. H
If you did not notice, there is already information here to answer your question, and my phone number is on THIS SITE. You have made many assumptions, opinions, conjectures, or JUDGMENTS about me and how I operate. As I said, my wife is well aware of what I do, and she's the only lady for me.


Penelope
WELL KEEP IT PROFESSIONAL AND LET IT STAY THAT WAY! ALSO AS A MAN OF THE CLOTH, YOUR CHOICE OF WORDS ARE VERY UGLY AND INAPPROPIATE TO BE "SAVED AND DELIVERED" IN GENERAL! (i.e. "watch it sucker" to Ramon - Omega Psi Phi) IN CONCLUSION, EITHER ANSWER MY QUESTIONS OR JUST FORGET IT, AND FOR THAT MATTER, THE WEBSITE....................

Min. H
I went to the post. Anybody who grew up in the late 70's would understand. It's all about context. Wow! I just learned something. Thank-You Jesus!

Re: Lengthy Guestbook Posts/Penelope

Penelope
Well since you have made your arguements, i will make mine and WE will let that be that. I am glad that you have attempted to prove your point. A wiseman once said to NEVER ARGUE WITH A FOOL! BECAUSE THOSE WHO WATCH CANNOT TELL THE DIFFERENCE. I am a CHRISTIAN AND A EVANGELIST. I am also a member of ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA SORORITY, INC. AND VERY PROUD.

Min. H
Okay Penelope, if that's your real name. AKA also has a 70% inactive rate. Whatever AKA has, the majority of your sorors could care less about. Notice that I am going to ignore your name calling. You are a Christian and an evangelist. Okay!

Penelope
YOU can continue to do what you do. I just wanted to know what your justifications for it were and I wanted an honest answer without reference to my spiritual beliefs.

Min. H
Well now that I know you are a believer, shame on you for being ashamed, but thank you now for your honesty. By the way, how do I know you are telling the truth? You could be a liar as you stated before. LOL!

Penelope
Because to be quite honest, IT DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE POSED. I researched you and I KNOW THE TRUE REASONS WHY YOU ARE DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST! AND YOU KNOW THAT NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU CONTINUE TO DO WHAT YOU DO YOUR REASONS HAVE STEMMED FROM YOUR PAST "OMEGA" DAYS.

Min. H
Who told you that? God! Well, you are beginning to sound like one of those religious know-it-alls, called a tongue-talking Pentecostal. You have not researched me, you have not interviewed me, or even spoke one decent word to me. So you are only speculating with no evidence, just as I am speculating that your name is Regina. At 53, that puts you pledging right around the time of the ritual I have my possession. I would have to say for a 70's IVY that you pledged an ILLEGAL PROCESS. But you may have been a sinner then.

Well of course they stem from my PAST Omega days, just as there is an EX-SOROR of yours who has written a book about Secret Societies. But if I had never been an Omega still does not mean that I would not have engaged in anti-greek rhetoric. Allow me to tell you what you should already know. I enjoyed the majority of my tenure as an Omega Man and a Nasty Que Dog.


Penelope
AND YOU KNOW THAT. BUT YOU WILL TELL ME AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO READS THIS OTHERWISE IN A REALLY "FANCY, SPIRITUAL" WAY. YOU NEED TO DEAL WITH YOURSELF. YOU HAVE A PROBLEM. AND I WILL PRAY FOR YOU.............

Min. H
Now was that above explanation really FANCY? You have said what many others have told me. As for your prayers, thanks, but no thanks. I do not know you, and would rather not that a STRANGER, pray for me that does not have my interests as a believer at heart.

And may I say that you have not even upheld your own sorority's principles of High moral and ethical standards in the way that you have approached me. By the way, are there any rules against AKA's fornicating? Nope! Didn't think so......So what are those standards based on again?

Penelope
(here is your opportunity to tear this post to pieces SPIRITUALLY! LOL) GOD BLESS YOU MY BROTHA but I am leaving this PERSONAL CRUSADE of yours alone PERMANENTLY....................

Min. H
Tear what to pieces.....I am not your over-bearing, tithe-mongering, babbling in gibberish pastor, who judges those by the measure of 10%. You sound like a Delta from the P.A.W. denomination rebuking me to no end, but having no integrity to admit to the pagan principles of her own sorority.

Stop allowing your feelings speaking to your heart, be confused with the Holy Spirit.


Penelope
p.s.
and by the way, i was born in 1955. SO I THINK I KNOW ABOUT THE 70's. and you are still INAPPROPRIATE!

Min. H
By the way, you have not refuted ONE, SINGLE, SOLITARY piece of info about your sorority. So it is unfortunate that you are still pledging you HEART, MIND, and STRENGTH to AKA. Obeying her laws and fostering her teachings, and to make HER SUPREME in SERVICE to all mankind. Sounds just like APHIA's, first of all, servants of all, we shall transcend all.........mess.

What a way to end something from a Christian. God Bless You, and you are still inappropriate..... LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

When you become free of your oaths, promises, and degrees, you can then join me in the freedom that exists in being open and honest with people.

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Jerod
"Not sure what happen to you, but greek life for some is about helping people."

Min. H
I got saved Jerod, that's what happened. My eyes to the truth were opened.

Jerod
My chapter works with kids, help college students pay for books, and help the edlerly, just a few things we do. If that's a bad thing then so be it.

Min. H
Not bad at all, but so do millions of others.

Jerod
You try so hard to show the bad about these org but what about the kid who's parent can't pay for their college and the PHC pays the bill.

Min. H
That's great Jerod. So by the way you talk, I JUST KNOW YOU ARE PAPER?


Jerod
What about the food drive we do, what about the blood drive we community clean up. There a lot of good things that we do in the community. God bless you bother and i hope you forgive and learn to live pass what ever has happen to you.

Min. H
You are assuming that I left the frat for a bad experience. Why don't you call me and let's talk, and you will see why I left the frat. 919/278-8911- This guestbook post is in the discussion forum under extended guestbook posts.


Minister H to Jerod,

Are you a born again believer?


Jerod
Well, paper or not, there are good things that happen in the frat and there are some that just don't get what the frat is really about.


Jerod
Well, paper or not, there are good things that happen in the frat and there are some that just don't get what the frat is really about. No need for me to call you.

Min. H
Never said there were not good things. If you download my book and read it, I believe I give mention to some of those things.
Ephesians 2:8-10/Titus 3:5

Jerod
Just as there are some people in church that are not living right, there are some people in the frat that don't understand what we are about.

Min. H
True, but the fraternity does not and has no rules to kick out members who refuse to stop cursing, fornicating, etc. The CHURCH does........

You are suppposed to teach them what it's about before they get in, and by the way, it's the brotherhood that confuses everything. Just do service and it would be just fine, but noooo, you all have to add this bonding stuff into the mix, which is really what changes the whole fabric of these organizations.

Jerod
Are you implying that members who believe in helping and do some things for others are paper?

Min. H
Members who do not pledge are paper.


Jerod
You know nothing about how I cross. And for those who feel like you have to act or live a certain way because you have greek letters, weak minded. Be able to make your own choices and live you own life and not the life of some letters. I believe in God, and I know he is my Lord and Savior. And I know he wouldn't lead me to some org nor some place that he doesn't want me to be. Once again get pass what happen. Forgive and pray for those who did you wrong and the ones you feel mislead you. As for me, I'm a positive Omega man. And just so you know, I'm not PAPER!!!!!!!!!!!

Min. H
So you are an illegal member, coming in by illegal means. I did not ask you if you believed in your head. Are you born again and did this happen before or after you pledged? So you do believe that Jesus is God?


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Where did you cross? Are you a neo, or having you gone prophyte yet? I will send a more complete response later. By the way you said that you were not paper, I assume you pledged for real, as in wood, neck, back, Invictus, If, Bridge Builder, See It Through, etc. Minister H

Jerod
Why should it matter where and when any one becomes frat/soro????

Min. H
Here everyone is where it gets priceless. When someone is in a BGLO, they have no problem saying where they are from. Chapter pride is high on the list.

Jerod
If you are truly against these org, the when and were shouldn't be a issue or your focus. The frat has help alot of people for every bad thing you post about any of these org, research and there will be just as much good that they do. You know this already that's why you don't post that aspect of these org.

Min. H
Your fraternity already promotes those good things, but people in criminal organizations do much of the same as well, so what’s your point? I have a point. These things are done to GLORIFY OMEGA, which is EXACTLY what you are doing. It is exactly what the ritual teaches.
I Corinthians 10:31

Jerod
You have a self serve purpose in this website. The frat and these other org are helpful no matter what their process.

Min. H
You treat HAZING like it’s no issue at all. Well it is, and it is of no surprise that you have not answered what I asked about your process in terms of taking wood, neck, back, etc., and I did not expect you to.

Jerod
How can you be so against org for what they do and there are so many other issues that you can be working on like child abuse, the importance of education of kids or kids that are on the wrong path, these are just a few thing org do.

Min. H
1.) Do not make your causes my ministry. 2.) You do not know what else I do. 3.) There are ministries that deal with the things you mention. 4.) There was and still is a book, but there were NO ministries out there dealing with the Biblical Worldview of Greek Organizations. 5.) One important thing is missing from what your organization does, and I see it as the missing ingredient every time. Do you know what it is?

Jeord
These org are about HELP, if your weak minded and focus on the letters and not the intent of the frat then you need help. Find members ask question about what it is that we are really suppose to be doing.

Min. H
Jerod- I was an Omega for 5 years. I do not have to ask any questions. I know the intent of the fraternity, and they are failing miserably. You are a clear result of that failure. Your attitude toward pledging is the most obvious. The other that stands out is your infatuation with a fraternity.



Jerod
In my opinion, you have some unsolved issues. So pray about them. How about posting the work that these org do in the community and the way they help people along with the bad you see in them and let people make their own choice, cause right now you are post a onesided street.

Min. H
I allow the greeks to present their side and I will present mine. As I said, my book is their to read for free. It has some of those good things. They get the amount of print they deserve.

Jerod
And I'm not a neo nor prophyte, Spr. 94 and I have faced just what other men have met.

Min. H
So you are an illegally made member!!!!! So how can you be trusted with the fraternity mandates, if you cannot follow them yourself? I wonder if you are still MAKING lamps. Since you were made it leaves me with one question, what is the Shekinah Light of Omega?

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Jerod
Are you saying having pride in your chapters is bad?

Min. H
With the LIMITED amount of information you give, I cannot adequately answer your question, and since you are being so SECRETIVE, I will pass on this one.

Jerod
I'm a proud father, a proud Environmentalist, a proud man of God. For I know without God I could not have done any of these things. Yes I represent Omega but to God be the Glory in every way we help people.

Min. H
To Omega's GLORY!!!!!!!!!! "Omega Dear, we are thine own, THOU ART OUR LIFE, OUR LOVE, OUR HOME. We'll sing THY PRAISES far and nigh, we'll love Omega Psi Phi"

Jerod
You have problems! Pledging has never made anyone a member of a frat/soro. The intake process does, you pledge by choice.


Min. H
So people like you and those at your chapter encourage not only ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR, BUT DIRECT DISOBEDIENCE TO THE FRATERNITY!!!!!! You must have failed the first 3 tests of D, F, and O. If they still do them in that order.


Jerod
The way you say paper member, it seem like you mean it as an insult.

Min. H
I will let my above answer speak to that.


Jerod
Truthfully, intake process is the only way to become a member.

Min. H
This is the OFFICAL WAY to become a member, but you know as well as I do that this is not the accepted way by most. People pledge becasue they are not strong enough to deal with the ostracization of being paper.

Jerod
I'm not crazy, I know that there are some people who are pledging. But that's their choice. And if you see some of the good in these org why disown them?

Min. H
Because they teach anti-biblical doctrine. The universal borhterhood of man, the fatherhood of god, faith in omega and the brothers, etc. OMEGAS ARE SIMPLY MASONS WITHOUT THE SQUARE AND COMPASS.

If Omega REALLY wants to change and accomodate TRUE Christian Manhood, then they can come holler at me, I already made it known unto them where I stand. So they disown the Savior, by what they teach, and through many deeds they promote.


Jerod
You as a member have to change things that you see wrong. Not put it down all together. I bet your a proud man of God just as alot of members in these org. So we all can't be that bad. I just don't share your views of frat. As far as any question about the frat, can't answer non or should I say EX- MEMBERS.

Min. H
So do you see me as bad then? Let's put your questions back into your mouth and ask you the same thing. So can I be all that bad?


Jerod
You admit that you know the intent, and you do nothing to help with the true intent. Then your no better than the members that are not doing what it is we are to be doing.

Min. H
You were no better when you chose to disobey the frat by pledging. Pledging is not a choice the fraternity offers, so let's get that straight. You cam in the fraternity WRONG.

I did try to help with the true intent, but no one was willing to listen, Christians included.


Jerod
Yes people see Omega doing these things but with out God we could not make these things happen.

Min. H
Oh! I like this philosophy. You see muslims doing certain things like you all to, and without Allah (God) they couldn't make it happen, right?


Jerod
And guess what, God himself put us in the position to be a blessing to someone who needs it. No matter if they are in an org are not, you can't argue the fact that helping people is a blessing from God.


Min. H
Sinners do it all the time, but will still go to hell if they reject Jesus.


Jerod
Good through the steps to help change what is wrong in these org and stop degrading them.

Min. H
I am glad you asked that question, because now you placed yourself in the hot seat.

All caps for emphasis only.

YOU SET UP A MEETING WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF OMEGAS, SPECIFICALLY THOSE IN LEADERSHIP, AND I WILL COME AND OFFER MY SUGGESTIONS AS TO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND YOU MUST BE PRESENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU JEROD, MAKE IT HAPPEN, AND I HAVE ANOTHER BROTHER IN CHRIST WHO IS AN EX-OMEGA, WHO WOULD LOVE TO ADD HIS INPUT.

THERE'S ONE PROBLEM THOUGH JEROD, AND IT CAME FROM YOUR OWN MOUTH. YOU DON'T TALK TO EX-QUES. LOL!!!!!!!!

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Jerod
No need to chat, this will be my last email. Christian is first, which to me means Christ and the followers of Jesus, Manhood is to be a honorable man and scholarship is to be wise.

Min. H
Christian Manhood according to the fraternity has nothing to do with salvation, ot they would not have you accept the Fatherhood of God and the Universal Brotherhood of Man. You need to study this and find out what it is sir. Did the fraternity PUBLICLY REBUKE JESSE JACKSON FOR ADULTERY? NO! Love, mercy, judgment, forgiveness, etc. are all tied together. The fraternity still places Jesse as one of its notable members, even though he never openly repented beofre the public. Could you imagine what kind of POSITIVE IMPACT THIS COULD HAVE ON THE COUNTRY?

Manhood is to be honorable. What is honorable to Omega? To keep secret anything another brother tells you. ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!! I know one thing that is honorable that I do not see Omega teaching, and that's Hebrews 13:4. "Be Owt Dog!!!!!!!" Not get married, and be with your wife Bruh!!!!!!!!


Jerod
Thats the way I see it, your saved and i'm happy for you. Live your life and do what ever you feel your calling is. As for me, I'm saved as well and pledging has never made you a member, there are some things wrong in the frat, but if not for God we could not be the blessing that we are to others.

Min. H
If not for Vishnu, the Hindus could not be the blessing they are to poeple. If not for Allah, the muslims could not be the blessing they are to people either. Agreed?


Jeord
I'm going to be one of those members that will work to make changes in the frat for the better and not one of those guys who put it down when I think the rules and regulation are wrong. Do what you do but in my opinion you are truly misleading these people because of what ever has happen to you. Not being accepted or what ever but you deal with your issues.

Min. H
I NEED TO LET ALL PEOPLE KNOW WHO READ THIS WHERE THIS ARROGANCE THAT LEAVING A GREEK ORGANIZATION, SPECIFICALLY OMEGA PSI PHI COMES FROM. THAT LEAVING AN ORGANIZATION PLACES YOU AMONG THE MENTALLY UNSTABLE.

You have seen where I mentioned the Fatherhood of God and the Universal Brotherhood of Man? Well there is another declaration of something pledges have accepted; the sole aristocracy of the intellect. Basically, this means that the educated person is naturally superior to the uneducated (e.g. THE TALENTED TENTH MENTALITY).

With this type of mentality, and always being told that your frat is the greatest, that your chapter is the hardest, etc. I can understand why educated men, such as Jerod himself would choose to self-degrade themselves to join.


Jerod
Frat/Soro help people and that can't be wrong.

Min. H
Luke 11:11-13
11If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent?

12Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion?

13If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

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Jerod
At one of those function, you may have been treated real bad or something, and things like that happen because members don't know or misunderstand the intent and meaning of brotherhood. Deal with it and get pass it,. you seem to be getting a lil puss because you know that frat and soro help people and you were one of those who was not fully accepted.

Min. H
You can keep riding that train to the end of the track. If you start riding it in the other direction, you must have missed your stop. I had great relationships with brothers in the sixth D, it was many of them who had the meltdown when I denounced, not me. I knew what I was doing, and full confident to the tune of writing a book about it. So in all honesty, I think it's Ques like you who need to get past this whole thing. If some of my former frat brothers called me up, and wanted me to come to a set, why not go. Just put the wood up and be prepared to hear about Jesus as the Savior, then a real history lesson about Omega and GLO's.

Jerod
And from what I get, you actually pledged. I say poor you. Deal with it guy, every one doesn't have the heart nor the will to make right what is wrong. No I don't agree with everything the frat does but we do make a difference in people lives that need help and that's a blessing within itself. Be cool, wish you the best and I pray you get pass your issues.

Min. H
Sir- I denounced/renounced in 1995. I was over it 13 years ago, and may I say this to you and all, OMEGA HAS DONE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN THOSE 13 YEARS TO GET MY ATTENTION, EXCEPT SEND ME A LETTER BEGGING ME TO COME BACK AND HELP THEM PAY THEIR LEGAL COSTS DUE TO HAZING. WOWZERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Jerod
Cool, the bad needs to be worked on, but the way you going about it is all wrong.

Min. H
Pure opinion based on no facts.

Jerod
You should clean your house before trying clean others.

Min. H
Are you implying that when I was an Omega, or the my house afterwards?

If you mean the former, I tried as a member, but I cleaned up my own house when I got saved, not by trying to fix a a wayward fraternity, founded upon masonic principles.


Jerod
If you feel Omega is wrong then fix it.

Min. H
I am doing that one soul at a time. Why can I not do it from the outside? They have to let me help.

Jerod
I have more heart than you think. Believe that. The fact that i'm doing and working for the real intent of the frat shows that.

Min. H
You're just talking, but how do I know?

Jerod
Unlike guys that lack the manhood to make change in their org so they try to destroy it.

Min. H
I do not live by yours, nor the fraternity's definition or ideal of manhood. Nice pot shot! And yes, I am trying to destroy the demonic strongholds, while Christians are busy upholding them. IT'S REAL FUNNY HOW YOU HAVE NOT MENTIONED ONE THING WRONG WITH YOUR FRATERNITY. HOW ABOUT THREE OR FOUR?


Jerod
Just because you do good work doesn't make the work that others do wrong or even bad. But I see your attitude in these response. All the more proof you have issues with the way you were treated.

Min. H
The man in the mirror.


Jerod
Face it, everybody doesn't have what it takes to stand and clean their frat up, so the move is to leave it all together.

Min. H
See Jerod, I did that when I admitted before an Almighty God that I was a sinner, in need of a bloodshed Savior.That's when I took a stand. I left the world all together, and Omega chose and still chooses to be a part of that world.

Jerod
Cool, we don't need friends that would leave you when your wrong and need help. Not real Christian like to me.

Min. H
Leaving debauchery, lasciviousness, self-exaltation, haughtiness, etc. is exactly what I left. Now that's very Christlike!

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