Jeez, Real American, just by using that alias you rub me the wrong way. Who is making the decision as to who is and who is not a "real American?" Personally, I tend to doubt that anyone who really understood the concepts on which America was founded would use such a moniker.

And what is it with you guys and wanting to surrender all the time? Now that the idiots who wasted the last 7 years, several thousand American lives and more than a trillion dollars of U.S. treasure are leaving office, maybe we can get down to business and take out the people who were actually responsible for the attack.

After that,we do what is necessary - but we don't get stupid and start pretending that any group of terrorist thugs can either defeat or destroy America. And we don't keep talking about some kind of silly forever war.

Indeed, we pitch that stupid "war on terror" terminology in the trash can where it belongs. War is between nation-states and there is no country called Terror. Terrorism is just a tactic.

Dealing with disparate groups of thugs, even well organized thugs with the same basic religion, is a matter for a strong intelligence activity combined with high power police activities.

Nor do we declare every muslim on the planet to be enemy. Most of them are just like most of us - too busy raising kids and getting on with life to really give a **** about much of the rest of the world. We should not give a crap about the ones who burn American flags on their street corners or who smack pictures of American Presidents with their shoes. Let 'em jump up and down and holler - as long as they are doing it in their neighborhoods, BFD.

Real American, whom ever you are what I suggest is what I have stated for years, send over every politian with one mag of ammo and let them fight it out, then maybe our men and women can get the job done.

Nuke no way jose, kill thousands of innocent people again. Sorry the only way to win a war or a battle is to keep the politicans and embedded reporters out of our way.

We do not retreat, our politicans do, just like they did during Vietnam, our politicans retreated because they know not what they are doing.

Yes mike ivy the polititions did retreat in the face of communisim. Your Democrat politions> Who gained a veto proof majority in congress in 1974. So President Ford could not support the south Vietnamese or even our own troops left in Vietnam. The democrats did deny any help against communism because they were THEN and are NOW tied completely to communisim and terrorism. We will all learn shortly when the ONE shows his true colors just how much the democrats are tied to destroying the U S and the american people.

Ssgmike, I can't argue with your statement.

Jack, Take a chill pill and have a Merry Christmas.

Jack B is quite correct about "terror" being a tactic and not a definable enemy. Any "Real American" would be insulted by the political strategist that coined the expression "War on Terror". Creating a mythical enemy with no valid credentials yet grouping it in a package that suggests it's existence is another way of saying to the American people, "we know that you are stupid, we like it that you are stupid and we intend to behave as if you are stupid."

Count me out!

John R...

Jack B is quite correct about "terror" being a tactic and not a definable enemy. Any "Real American" would be insulted by the political strategist that coined the expression "War on Terror".

As I take notice to this as the islamc world used New York city on 9-11 to instruct this country to see who is "REEL AMERICANS".

They are the ones fighting for this Country and not worrying about the "Political Strategist".

And If anyone coined that it was the world of Islam.

That's all i needed to know.

11echo40,

With all due respect, I hardly think that 19 deranged and misguided Muslims are representive of the Islamic world.

John R...

Well, 11Echo40, look at it this way - Bush bought into Cheney and Rumsfeld's silly-assed notion of how to fight a "war on terror" and in doing so went a very long way to giving Osama Bin Laden exactly what he wanted.

Don't you really think that it would have been better if we had recognized that our true enemy was the folks who planned and carried out the attack against us - a relatively small group of thugs with their own motives - and if we had then simply hunted their asses down and put Bin Ladin's head on a pike about 6 years ago?

Instead, too many people bought into the mind-numbingly stupid idea that we needed to make war on millions of people who don't give a flying **** about us and who are no true threat at all.

I saw Bush on TV recently saying how after 9/11 he gave the Taliban two choices - either give up Al-Queda or share Al-Queda's fate. The Taliban chose the 2nd option and it worked out very well for them. They - and the leadership of Al-Queda - have spent the years since 9/11 living comfortably on the Pakistan-Afghan border. So much for Bush's "You can run but you can't hide" rhetoric, eh?

During that same period, we have been breaking our military and our treasury killing Iraqis - none of whom had participated in the attack on the U.S. That absolutely has to be one of the most stupid responses to aggression that any nation have ever made - let the people who attacked you sit fat and happy where they can continue planning future attacks while wasting resources getting bogged down in a country with no connection to the original attack.