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So much for separation of Church and State.

This email was sent to me by a nonpartisan friend. I can't speak for its validity (snopes had no info on it) but whether you are Republican, Democrat, Indpendent or Liberterian, this might send a chill up your spine. Take the 14:26 minutes to watch the video.

John R...


Subject: Prophecy about Sarah Palin

I believe you are aware that Dutch was used by the Lord to call prayer before the 2000 Bush election that was so close. He said this morning that this election is perhaps even more critical than 2000 because of the Supreme Court. If the right political posture is not elected, we stand to lose decades of progress and the repercussions are enormous. Last year Chuck Pierce and Greg Hood (both prophets) prophesied that in 2008 we are not electing a president but the vice president. Dutch said he could get no release in his heart to back Huckaby even though pressured by many in the body of Christ. Huckaby is a good man and a strong believer, but he was not God's choice. Dutch also told us that he knows a man who gave McCain a prophetic word that McCain had made a vow to God when he was at the bottom during his POW days and now God was calling in that vow.
McCain was visibly moved by this word.

Dutch was traveling to Texas on Friday and when he landed in the airport, his wife called and told him to get to the TV asap. He watched McCain introduce Governor Palin and said he began to weep, even though he knew nothing about her. (I experienced the very same thing and we have had reports of many others including Newt Gingrich.) He asked what the significance of this 44-year-old woman was and he saw the clock said 4:44. He asked the Lord what that was and the Lord said, 'Ezekiel 44:4.'
'He brought me by way of the north gate to the front of the temple; so I looked, and behold, the glory of the LORD filled the house of the LORD; and I fell on my face. NKJV North gate representing Alaska .

A few years ago Dutch and Chuck Pierce went on a 50-state tour prophesying over the state their part in God's purposes for the U.S. At the meeting in Texas that evening Dutch was relaying his experience about the Governor to Chuck who said, 'Do you remember what the word was the Lord gave us for Alaska ?' The Lord had shown them that Alaska is th e alpha and omega state. It is the place where things begin and end.
You may realize that some of the Alaskan islands are on the other side of the Dateline meaning that the day begins and ends in Alaska . The Lord said that Alaska is a gateway for the Ancient of Days to come into the nation . The Lord told Dutch (back in Alaska ) to tell the people of Alaska to look forward into their destiny. Alaska has a assignment to open doors and a place where prophets and intercessors were trained. It turns out that the Govenor who was raised in a Pentecostal Church , according to our newspaper, founded the prayer movement in Alaska .

We will be having the last of our 90 days beginning in a major gathering Sept 11th. The significance of this is that Chuck Pierce had prophesied that there would be 7 years of war and Sept 11 marks the end of that time and the entering of the 8th year. Someone said that 44 = 4 4 or 8.

Dutch asked why he and Chuck were in Texas for this an nouncement and the Lord reminded him that the word for Texas was that it is a prophetic state - that the Lord's purpose for Texas is this prophetic function.

Dutch then decreed she will enter the White House. Now, if you don't know him, he is cautious, has his feet on the ground, and never goes of 'half cocked' when it comes to prophecy. He said that he believes as of Friday the U.S. has come into a new level of alignment wilth the Lord and His purposes. By the way, the Governor will be the 44th Vice President.
He continued to declare that she will be the Margaret Thatcher of America including that she would be President one day. Many other things came forth. I literally thought I would explode because the Lord had shown me many of these same things yesterday.

I believe we especially need to rally prayer for the family and children of the Governor. They will be targeted by the enemy and I believe we need special prayer for the oldest daughter. Please take this seriously in your prayers.

Sarah Palin is addressing the graduates for the Master's Commission Ceremony at the Wasilla Assembly of God in Wasilla, Alaska, where she grew up. This is only about 15 minutes and well worth the watch. Kayla

Sarah Palin who is running for Republican Vice President (with McCain) is a Born Again Holy Spirit Filled Christian.

This is a Video of her speaking at her Assembly of God church in Alaska... We respect your political views and preferences, just wanted to share with you that God answers prayers and put someone on the top as simple as you and me and that stands for JESUS in everything she does and says. For HIS GLORY..

Re: So much for separation of Church and State.

Just because someone is Chrsitian does not mean they cannot function in government by seperating church and state. Liberals have done a great job on that. I believe that when this election comes the American people will be able to know who they will vote for. The indepents will be the deciding voters in this one.

Re: So much for separation of Church and State.

Uhmmm, Robert, are you aware that all recent Presidents have identified themselves as Christians - including the liberal ones? Indeed, all of the candidates in the current election race identify themselves as Christians.

And you cannot possibly have failed to recognize that the incredibly incompetent and nasty current president has been crowing his Christian status across the country. So exactly what is your point?

Certainbly, not all liberals are christians - I am not, for one. Of course, I don't really believe that most of you guys - conservative or liberal - claiming to be christians actually are either. Most Americans, despite their occasional church attendance and their professions of faith are really just keeping up old habits and putting own shows for one another.

Now, they do love being able to push responsibility for their lives away from themselves and onto some all powerful and beneficient deity. And most will quickly assure you that they are believers in the Bible, which they refer to as the true word of god. But, in truth, they are not willing follow the bible- at least not more of it than a few simple passages that tend to support what they want to believe about their neighbors and their hopes for immortailty. The simple fact is that most people who identify themselves as christians are just not interested in living up to the life required of true believers.

Which kind of goes back to the original point. There has never really been a separation of church and state in persons of our presidents - and the only thing that has saved us has been the strict enforcement of our Constitutional guarantees in the making or our every day law. During the last 8 years, however, this strict enforcement has been eroded. And if that erosion is accepted and allowed to continue,it is totally possible that within the next 50 years or so (and maybe a lot less), the American Republic as we have known it will cease to exist.

Re: So much for separation of Church and State.

and why is it that kennedy has been the only Catholic President if I am correct?

Re: So much for separation of Church and State.

I would say that it was probably because he was the only one to run and win.

There were a bunch of them in the primaries this year, but none survived to become candidates. On the other hand, Biden, Democratic candidate for VP is Catholic.