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Where oh where was Barry Soetoro really birthed

Thanks to the lawsuit filed by Philip Berg, Obama now ADMITS (on his “Fight the Smears” website and that he held dual citizenship with Kenya as a child. This, in and of itself, may arguably disqualify him under Article II as the whole point of the “Natural Born Citizen” requirement is the avoidance of divided allegiances. (Which makes his covert and quite possibly illegal activities [Logan Act?] on behalf of Kenya’s thugocrat, Odinga, all the more relevant and disturbing.)

There is a further complication, however. His subsequent adoption by Lolo Soetoro and resultant INDONESIAN citizenship is a bigger fly in his ointment. (I laugh whenever reference is made to “citizen of the WORLD’… Obama truly is a WORLD CITIZEN!)

Indonesia, at the time Obama lived there and was deemed an Indonesian citizen, did not recognize dual citizenship, and neither did the US recognize dual citizenship with Indonesia. Thus, whether he held dual citizenship with the US and Kenya, whether he was born in the US or Kenya, or even - as some suggest - CANADA, is irrelevant as the ONLY legitimate citizenship he held once his adopted father moved him to Indonesia was Indonesian! His US Citizenship would be forfeit!

Whether and when Barry Soetoro/Barack Obama might have regained US Citizenship thereafter, it would be thru NATURALIZATION and that is SPECIFICALLY and EXPRESSLY ineligible to serve as President of the United States under Title II. (Could this be why he uses the politically risky name Barack Hussein Obama instead of the more innocuous “Barry Soetoro”? Perhaps Barry Soetoro is STILL an Indonesian citizen? Perhaps there are naturalization papers in the name of Barry Soetoro? I’m just asking…

The judge in the Berg suit has not, to this date, granted Obama’s motion to dismiss the case and it continues to move forward. (If the case has no merit, why hasn’t the judge granted the relief Obama filed for??) Now Obama has a second suit he must contend with. Both could be easily dispensed with by providing the demanded documentation which would prove he is a “natural born citizen” and thus eligible to serve. He has not produced these documents and instead seeks to DELAY discovery and production of any documents while he makes motions to dismiss. The “proof” of eligibility he’s offered is a “Certificate of Live Birth” posted on his “Fight the Smears” website, and duplicated on and the Daily Kos sites! (Forensic experts have declared it a forgery!) Even if it were a genuine Hawaiian “Birth Certificate” with raised seal (and it’s not), it would still not adequately address the Indonesian citizenship issue which Obama has yet to acknowledge!

The text of the new suit appears below. Note the factual argument in section 5 which is the basis of the case.

(Hey, anyone know a good pro-bono attorney in MO??? I’d love to bring a similar suit that our loony leftist Missouri Secretary of State, Robin Carnahan, would have to respond to!!)




CIVIL ACTION NO___________


1.1. Plaintiff Steven R Marquis, [hereinafter “Plaintiff”] hereby offers this memorandum in support of his motion for injunctive relief, to demand performance of constitutional duties related to the Office of Washington State, Secretary of State by Samuel Sumner Reed, a/k/a Sam Reed, [hereinafter Defendant”].

1.2. Plaintiff’s complaint challenges the presidential candidate Mr. Barack Obama’s eligibility to run for the Office of President and demands that the Office of Secretary of State make such determination by acquisition of original documentation or by receipt of verifiable information from another government entity so charged with overseeing the election process such as the Federal Elections Commission.

1.3. Plaintive argues that when a challenge is received by the Washington State, Secretary of State to the qualification for office of a candidate appearing on the Washington State Ballot that the entire burden of proof falls on the Candidate for Office to present such information and documentation to the Washington State, Secretary of State as would be normal and customary to establish ones minimum qualifications for office.

1.4. Plaintiff argues that the Office of Secretary of State has the Constitutional and Statutory authority to make such determinations as part of certifying and executing fair and open elections.

1.5. Plaintiff argues that is it only sufficient to show reasonable cause for complaint to the Secretary of State for his Office to require documentation

Re: Where oh where was Barry Soetoro really birthed

Dear Friend,

Thank you for joining the fight against the lies, false attacks, and smear campaigns targeting Barack Obama and designed to create fear and division at a time that calls for unity and solutions. No one of us can put an end to these attacks, but together we can set the record straight.

We’ve received the message you sent and will evaluate it to inform the campaign’s pushback strategy to this growing problem. Please continue to send us each smear you receive -- even if you receive the same one multiple times from different sources.

When possible, please forward messages just as they came to you, without changing the subject or sending the message as an attachment. And feel free to include your friends and family on the message you send us -- if we’ve developed a response already, we’ll send it to everyone you included.

If you haven't already, it's important that you provide the truth to whoever passed along the smear that you reported. Refer to to get the facts you need in order to fight back on a wide variety of smears.

Meanwhile, here are a few facts about Barack that you may want to pass on:

* Barack Obama is working for middle class Americans. The Obama-Biden tax plan includes a tax cut of $1,000 for more than 150 million working Americans. The plan will also eliminate income taxes altogether for more than 7 million senior citizens who make less than $50,000 per year. Finally, Obama’s plan will provide an average of $500 to 10 million homeowners, the majority of whom earn less than $50,000 per year.;

* Barack Obama will make healthcare affordable for your family. If you like your employer-offered healthcare, you can keep it -- at a reduced cost. If you don’t, or you don’t have health care, you will have a choice of new, affordable health insurance options. You will not be turned away -- regardless of preexisting conditions. Obama will help small businesses provide affordable health insurance to their employees with a Small Business Health Tax Credit. Read more about the Obama-Biden healthcare plan here:

* Barack Obama knows that the problems we’re facing in this election are too serious to let the politics of manufactured controversy and fake outrage dominate. He wants to bring our troops home from Iraq, so we can focus on Afghanistan and track down the terrorists who attacked us. And he’s proposed a detailed plan for using alternative energy sources to relieve America’s dependence on foreign oil within 10 years and put millions of Americans to work. See more about Obama’s plan for change here:

* Despite many email smears claiming something else, Barack Obama is a committed Christian and an American citizen. After being raised by a single mother and by his grandparents in a modest household in Hawaii, Barack studied hard and won scholarships and loans to attend Columbia University and later Harvard Law School, where he became president of the Harvard Law Review. After law school, he returned to Chicago to give back to society as a community organizer and later as a civil rights lawyer and law professor.

Please forward this to anyone you know who has received a smear email about Barack. Together we can make sure these negative and divisive attacks don't affect this election.

Thanks for your help,
Obama-Biden Watchdog Team

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Okay, Liar pretending to be conservative, straighten me out a bit on why you consider WND a reliable source for your other BS and yet you refuse to believe them when they tell you that they have investigated this issue and that they have determined that Obama was born in Hawaii.

The truth, of course, is that you know that you a just blowing smoke. Lying is acceptable to you - and maybe just a little bit of fun. That says a whole lot about you.

And, just in passing, John McCain could almost certainly have had dual Panamanian/US citizenship - and may have had.

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John McCain could almost certainly have had dual Panamanian/US citizenship.

Hey Putz shows just how much you don't know. The laws concerning citizenship for military dependents is well known. Those born of military families over seas have but one citizenship and that is America,

I have a personal fried that was born on a U.S. Navy hospital ship off the coast of Hong Kong, yup you guess it his is an American with just an American citizenship.

My niece had a baby in a GERMAN hospital in Heidelburg last spring, yup you guessed it that baby boy is a full American.

Now why do you think that the socialists dropped that lie about McShame as soon as it hit the streets?? Think on it a moment it just may occur to you that that dog just don't hunt.

Keep trying socialist your making a otherwise boring day into a laugh a minute.

Re: Where oh where was Barry Soetoro really birthed

McCain also knows how to crash airplanes...Obama doesn't know how to do that....Obama didn't need an in to get to Annapolis...he had the intelligence to acquire scholarships and attend good schools...Obama isn't a woman chaser, but he is young...he could still learn...
Cindy says McFossil has no PTSD...that is just for the young guys...McFossil was TRAINED...wish she would share their cure....McBush's lies have created many more PTSD cases...
Whatcha gonna do when we have a Black President...closet racism is what I see.

Re: Where oh where was Barry Soetoro really birthed

Sadly for you, *******, America only controls American citizenship - and from America's point of view, your niece is certainly an American citizen. Germany, on the other hand gives the kid the right to claim either citizenship. I had a nephew born under the exact same conditions that you describe and while he never considered exercising the right, I think that he always enjoyed the exotic nature of the possibility.

That is the kind of bull**** that you are trying to foist off on Obama. And it is also the basis for that particular shoe also fitting McCain.

As for why it didn't get used - that is because people capable of conscious thought know that it doesn't mean ****. Which is why only dufuses like you are still using it.

And, as an FYI, the U.S. did away with any prohibition of dual citizenship in 1967. I am not so sure that is a good thing, but it happened all the same.

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Man ole daze Joy it ain't been but one day and you make this comment..."Whatcha gonna do when we have a Black President...closet racism is what I see"...

Not surprised by the sentiment, it was either racism or me being a Nazi..sooooo predictable.

Re: Where oh where was Barry Soetoro really birthed

If you don't want the label, bubba, don't do the action.

Re: Where oh where was Barry Soetoro really birthed

Putz I could give a flying fig what you or Joy or anyone thinks of me.

As long as my family cares for me and knows what I am I really don't dwell on what you think.

get over it

Re: Where oh where was Barry Soetoro really birthed

More comedy. Just keep on lying to yourself, bubba.

Re: Where oh where was Barry Soetoro really birthed

Ok Jaqui tell us just why Hussien doesnt relaese his records his birth records His nmedical records who paid for all his college education who paid for his trip to POOKISTAN ( the way he pronounces the word)The arabic pronounciaion. who paid for all of these things. Why he changed his name from Barry soerto back to barack Hussienobams after that 1981 trip. Just why wont he come clean about his connection to Bill Ayers? He seems to imply that with all the education he got (paid for by some mystery patron.) he wasnt able to read newspaer accounts of the terrorist ayers activities trying to destroy the United States. Maybe if those accounts had been printed in arabic he could have been able to understand

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From fact

The truth about Obama's birth certificate.


In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."

We beg to differ. staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

and say as far as the release of his Medical records:

Go head on and release them, But also release all of McCains Med Records INCLUDING the sealed one that they said is OFF LIMITS in regards to his VA PTSD Compensation and Diagnoses! I want to see that, Since His Big Mouth wife, Cindy McBarbie made the statement that he isn't effected by PTSD "Because he went to the Naval Academy"! Also that the only guys that had problems were the, Vietnam War "Drafted 18 Year Olds!

By all means, Lets see not just Obamas, But McCains too!

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Hey Duane when someone gets a scholorship to attend a college who pays? Do you know?