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Joe the plumber has no expectation of the right to privacy from Democrats

UPDATE: State's Computer Checks On 'Joe The Plumber' More Extensive Than First Acknowledged...

Tax, welfare info also sought on McCain ally...

Seems that there has been 3 arrested, so far, in the case of Democrats ILLEGALLY searching gov'mint computers for info on a private citizen.

This is but a harbinger of things to come from a Obama administration.

You're next......

Re: Joe the plumber has no expectation of the right to privacy from Democrats

for sure if hussien can pry into confidential information on private citizens when he supposedly now has no power.When he does have absolute power over anericans and their lives like his namesake saddam. the very lives of any and all anericans will be forfeit.

Obama donor ordered Big Brother probe of Joe the Plumber. State agency director authorizes child-sup


Following the third presidential debate, a state agency director and maximum donor to the Barack Obama presidential campaign immediately authorized a government background check of Joe the Plumber's child-support records.

Helen Jones-Kelley, director of the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services and a $2,300 contributor to the Obama campaign, permitted state employees to conduct a check on Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher, the Columbus Dispatch reported.

Now Ohio Inspector General Thomas P. Charles is seeking to determine whether at least four probes on state computers were legal.

Jones-Kelley denies the Support Enforcement Tracking System search was politically motivated and claims the check was ordered to verify that Wurzelbacher was not behind on child-support payments.

While the state agency director would not share information about Joe the Plumber's record with the Dispatch, Wurzelbacher reportedly lives with his 13-year-old boy, and it is uncertain whether he has ever been ordered to pay child support.

Jones-Kelley said such background checks are not unusual.

"Our practice is when someone is thrust quickly into the public spotlight, we often take a look," she said. "Our practice is to basically look at what is coming our way."

Ohio's Democrat Gov. Ted Strickland told the Dispatch his appointee, Jones-Kelly, did not authorize the check for political purposes.

"Based on what we know to this point, we don't have any reason to believe the information was improperly accessed or disclosed by a state employee," his press secretary told the paper.

Name searches on Joe the Plumber were also conducted at the Bureau of Motor Vehicles, where his registration and driving records were pulled. The State Highway Patrol has seized a government computer at the Ohio Department of Insurance as evidence. A separate search was conducted in the Toledo Police Department's
criminal database.

Re: Joe the plumber has no expectation of the right to privacy from Democrats

Hail to the Chief.

Re: Joe the plumber has no expectation of the right to privacy from Democrats

You boys just never stop blowing smoke out of your asses, do you? You have absolutely no idea, let alone evidence that any democrat was involved in any unethical - let alone criminal activity as it relates to Joe the Wannabe Country Singer.

Of course, as you have repeatedly proven, a lack of truth is never an impediment of you saying something that favors your point of view.

Tag team comedy!

Re: Joe the plumber has no expectation of the right to privacy from Democrats

Jack you just keep thinking as you do and ignore the unethical breaches of privacy all you want.

And Grant that is "Hail to the Fraud", and not just yet anyway....

Re: Joe the plumber has no expectation of the right to privacy from Democrats

Just in: The Toledo Police Department confirms that one of its records clerks has been charged with performing an unlawful search of Joe The Plumber’s records.

That makes two Ohio government employees identified in the snooping case. (Obama donor Helen Jones-Kelly, director of the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services, approved a separate search. More are being investigated.)

WNWO reports:

Toledo Police have confirmed that a TPD records clerk is accused of performing an illegal search of information related to ‘Joe the Plumber.’

Julie McConnell, has been charged with Gross Misconduct for allegedly making an improper inquiry into a state database in search of information pertaining to Samuel Wurzelbacher on Oct. 16.

Wurzelbacher came under the spotlight after being spoken about during the final presidential debate between Barack Obama and John McCain.

The inquiry into Wurzelbacher’s record is a violation of department and state policy governing the use of the Law Enforcement Automated Data System. The clerk is under fire for making the inquiry for a non-law enforcement purpose.

McConnell was hired by the Toledo Police Department in April 1995 and assigned to the Investigative Services Bureau.

A quick search of campaign donor records doesn’t turn up McConnell’s name.

Maggie Thurber wants to know: Who was McConnell digging up the information for?


Update: Here’s your answer, Maggie.

The Toledo PD clerk was reportedly doing a favor for a reporter who wanted Wurzelbacher’s address.

More: Joe may sue.

Go for it, Joe.

Now Frack do you want me to find evidence of the other two arrests? Or are you satisfied that Democrats are just plain corrupt to the point that a private citizen, not running for any public office can have his records gone through by corrupt Democrats operatives.

Under a fraud like Obama no one has any expectations of privacy what with Obama's storm troopers on the case.

By the by the report for corrupt Democrats that Joe the plumber is waaaay behind in his child support payments are a lie, in as much as Joe the plumber has had custody of his one and only son lo these past 9 years or so.

So much for Democraps accountability and veracity.

Re: Joe the plumber has no expectation of the right to privacy from Democrats

Joe Blow or whomever, stop to think about this that people are doing a back round check on someone for such a petty BS. This should scare the chit out of everyone. This kind of thing has to cease now. Reminds me of that old movie when the people worship someone they call Big Brother and they say Big Brother is watching. Just something to think about.JMHO

Re: Joe the plumber has no expectation of the right to privacy from Democrats

If I recall Joe "Sam" owes the IRS back taxes ? So why can he not be looked into? He's a tax evader.

Re: Joe the plumber has no expectation of the right to privacy from Democrats

Well, Putz - when you start signing your posts that way? - you have certainly produced evidence that somebody made inquiries into Joe the Whatever's records and that at least one of them was charged with something by the cops.

But you are still pulling the connection to Obama out of your ass.

Do you by any chance remember a while back when a whole bunch of people were disciplined for looking at celebrity and politician's privat records?

It turned out that most of them were just nosy - at least that is what the republicans in charge of the agency said.

Me, I think that it was likely the press looking for info on Joe - since he has hired a publicist, I don't think that remaining anonymous is one of his goals.

Re: Joe the plumber has no expectation of the right to privacy from Democrats

So do a million or so other americans owe back tax. That's the IRS job not some ****** off politician to look into anyones backround just to get something on anyone. This is an abuse of power. If they can get away with this what next? Open your eyes this is scarey. Think about it. JMHO

Re: Joe the plumber has no expectation of the right to privacy from Democrats

Your right Gary. It is scary.

I have not been able to place a good bet with my Bookie over the phone or over the Net for a few years,, ever since George Bush has given the OK to listen to our phone calls and read our E-mails.

Gotta drive up to the Casino to do it!

Re: Joe the plumber has no expectation of the right to privacy from Democrats

Gary, I will ask you the same question - how the hell do you know that ANY politician was involved? Certainly no one has yet shown any suggestion that politicians were involved, let alone evidence of it.

News men have just as much interest - and a hell of a lot more experience and almost certainly more contacts in local offices.

Re: Joe the plumber has no expectation of the right to privacy from Democrats

jaqui Samuel Joe Wurselbacher presented hussien with some dificulty when he asked a question of hussien..Not knowing like all democrats do that NO ONE has any right to ask the great one any questions.
According to you dumbocrats only the mullahs of Iran The leaders of islamic terrorists have the rigt to ask anything of him and if the american people reject him he will have alot to answer for to the islamic terrorists. Joe mistakenly thought the the ist ammendment applies to ALL Americans. Now all of you on this board know far better, dont you.

Re: Joe the plumber has no expectation of the right to privacy from Democrats

Duane I still can not figure out why you think Joe whomever stand in for Sarah Palin now it seems asked Senator Obama anything difficult. Seems the Republicans are the only one who thought it was a difficult question. As far as I am concerned Senator obama answered the question completely. The guy made 40k you know darn well he will not be facing a federal tax increase, maybe a state tax increase could be possible but that has nothing to do with either candidates, the President does not control taxation within the states.

So if his Govnor, Mayor, town clerk raises his taxes it would not fall on the hands of the President of the United States. Am I right?

Re: Joe the plumber has no expectation of the right to privacy from Democrats

Geez I forgot since he is a tax evador for not paying his taxes why is McCain replacing Sarah Palin with Joe the tax evador? Seems McCain has totally lost it guys, sadly

Re: Joe the plumber has no expectation of the right to privacy from Democrats

The problem with Joe the I really don't want to work on toilets anymore is the lies and misleading crap that you dishonest yobs have built up around the fraud.

The guy asked Obama a question - all of the premises of the question were lies, but it was a question - and Obama stopped and anwered it at length and answered it truthfully. Asked and answered, end of story. But you mooks - through your team - have dragged the poor fool into the limelight for your own crass purposes. I actually don't blame the dude for trying to grap a little something for himself out of the melee. Goodness knows he will disappear like a morning fog just as soon as the republicans have wrung any perceived usefulness from him.

Re: Joe the plumber has no expectation of the right to privacy from Democrats

I would question his judgement on spouting off about buying a Plumbing Service Company and running it with no State Contractors License!

In my day, some Clown walks onto my jobsite when I'm taking Plumbing bids and gives me one, the first thing I do is to check his license Number which are listed "publicly" for all to see.

The ones that submitted bids to me that had no license, I would immediately Copy that bid with his name and address and file the appropriate paperwork, To the State Contractors License Department Enforcement Div, so they could take legal action under the Unlicensed Contractor Act against that person! I probably did it a hundred times and most of them got just what they deserved when they went in front of a Judge and I never lost a wink of sleep over it.

I know many Contractors here in the State of Florida and Back in Cal. and have yet to talk to one that disagrees with me on the subject of Unlicensed Contractors presenting themselves as Licensed Contractors. In the field of Plumbing They are ether a, Plumbing Company Employee, a Plumbers Helper or an apprentice.

In Joe's case he's nothing more than a Big Mouth "Handy-Man" Posing as a Plumber. Just like one of those wannabe's that got off the bus Sporting a Shiny new CIB bought at the PX and never seen a Minute of Combat!

When Joe The Handy-Man takes the test, passes it and then gets his State License Issued, He can then and only then, "Come out and Play with the Big Boys"!

The "Real" Joe The Plumbers are now putting Disclaimers on their ads and web sites saying, "We are not Joe the Un-Licensed Plumber"!


Joe the Plumber hires Nashville publicity team

Fri Oct 31, 7:22 AM EDT
Like all good celebrities, Joe the Plumber has hired a publicity team.

The Press Office in Nashville, where clients include rockers Grand Funk Railroad and Eddie Money, will help him handle the flood of interview and appearance requests that have poured in since he was mentioned during a presidential debate and quickly became a household name.

"It's like any other celebrity who is in the public eye," said Jim Della Croce, who owns the agency. "There needs to be someone acting as a clearinghouse and interpreting the opportunities and coordinating the media requests, and he truly is being inundated."

Despite rumors to the contrary, he's not planning to release an album, though a book is in the works.

"He's not doing a country record," Della Croce said flatly Thursday. "I think that was an angle that was presumptuous."

Joe the Plumber, whose real name is Samuel J. "Joe" Wurzelbacher, 34, of Ohio, gained national attention when Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama told him during a campaign stop that he wanted to "spread the wealth around."

Their exchange about Obama's tax plan aired countless times on cable news programs. Republican nominee John McCain repeatedly cited Joe the Plumber in a debate, saying Obama's plan would hurt people like him who want to own their own businesses.

Wurzelbacher campaigned for the Republican ticket on his own bus tour around Ohio this week and appeared with Sarah Palin on Wednesday. His name comes up at just about every GOP rally.

But with the election next week, what's next?

A lot of things are too premature to talk about, Della Croce said, but a book is already planned.

"Certainly Joe will go down in history and will be a celebrity regardless of which way the election turns," Della Croce said. "He is a curiosity. He's touched a nerve with the common man, and people are curious as to what's on his mind. I think he speaks for a lot of people."

So many, apparently, that he needs three managers at The Press Office, among them country singer Aaron Tippin. Wurzelbacher met Tippin, also a McCain supporter, when they appeared on former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee's Fox News talk show.

The media scrutiny hasn't always been kind to Wurzelbacher, who turned out to be an unlicensed plumber with unpaid back taxes.

At first, Wurzelbacher insisted he wanted no part of the spotlight and predicted he'd be a small footnote in the campaign.

"I'm a flash in the pan, a novelty. It's going to be a fun couple of days," he said.

It has lasted much longer.

Della Croce has managed rock stars, but Joe the Plumber is a special case.

"Never in 25 years have I seen this level of interest in a celebrity," Della Croce said.