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The truth that we cannont appreciate and expalin!!!

First of all, there is undoubtedly a Truth one and eternal which we are seeking, from which all other truth derives, by the light of which all other truth finds its right place, explanation and relation to the scheme of knowledge. But precisely for that reason it cannot be shut up in a single trenchant formula, it is not likely to be found in its entirety or in all its bearings in any single philosophy or scripture or uttered altogether and for ever by any one teacher, thinker, prophet or Avatar. Nor has it been wholly found by us if our view of it necessitates the intolerant exclusion of the truth underlying other systems; for when we reject passionately, we mean simply that we cannot appreciate and EXPLAIN.

Secondly, this Truth, through it is one and eternal, expresses itself in Time and through the mind of man; therefore every Scripture must necessarily contain two elements, one temporary, perishable, belonging to the ideas of the period and country in which it was produced, the other eternal and imperishable and applicable in all ages and countries. Moreover, in the statement of the Truth the actual form given to it, the system and arrangement, the metaphysical and intellectual mold, the precise expression used must be largely subject to the mutations of Time and cease to have the as e force; for the human intellect modifies itself always, continually dividing and putting together it is obliged to shift its divisions continually and to rearrange its syntheses; it is always leaving old expression and symbol of new or, if it uses the old, it so changes its connotation or at least in its exact content and associations that we can never be quite sure of understanding an ancient book of this kind precisely in the sense and spirit it bore to its contemporaries. What is of entirely permanent value is that which besides being universal has been experienced, lived and seen with a higher than the intellectual vision.


GEMS OF WISDOM
Hindu Meditations & Non-Hindu Meditations

Sri Aurobindo

Essays on The Gita, pp. 4-5

Re: Re: Joseph Bellow's demonization

A careful review of these posts strongly indicates that a reasonable and plausible explanation was made as to the facts behind the "LUTFALLAH/LUFTWAFFE" misspelling incident.

There is no information that tends to contradict Mr. Weiss' or Mr. Nathan's statements regarding the incident.

Neither do their statements contradict each other. Bellow's contention that only one is or could be telling the truth is nonsense and irrelevant.

Further, there is no reason or evidence to assume that Mr. Weiss or Mr. Nathan is lying. There is also no reason to believe that they would not tell the truth.

An honest person, free of personal interest and subjective delusions would tend to trust that the information provided by Weiss and Nathan is quite probably true.

Perhaps Mr. Bellows should get together with a Reading & Comprehension teacher.

The Insider

Re: Re: Re: Joseph Bellow's demonization

mr. weiss contends that it was his inadvertant use of spellchecker on mr. lutfallah's name which resulted in an unfortunate error. mr nathan on the contrary contends he referred to mr lutfallah as mr luftwaffe deliberately on purpose likening him to all those 'brownshirts' and 'fascisti' of bygone days he likes to go on about and that as his use of the term in a private email somehow excuses it. i can't make head nor tail of either of these persons posts, except to end up thinking of them as incredibly immature for grown men, and to think of them and any meeting they may attend as a council of idiots. (at least in my head) hahahahaahahaha. you have no idea how that characterization amuses me! hahahahahahahahahaha...

Re: Re: Re: Re: Joseph Bellow is The Informant

That’s all nonsense and foolishness. What a pile of malarkey!

The CENTRAL ISSUE, in case you forgot, is GEORGE’S BHAVIOR, not how it came to be described by association with the German Air Force, "Nazi storm troopers" a.k.a. "brown shirts" -- particularly their tactic of kicking the yahoo out of anyone or anything they considered their enemy – DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR tactics.

The MAIN POINT herein is you are COVERING for George's behavior by switching the focus of the discussion away from George's fascisti-like behavior and attacking his critics' veracity, intelligence, maturity, choice of words, use of language and a barrage of irrelevant minutia.

How is spell checking and subsequent use of the allegedly offensive phrases contrary?

Aren’t you getting tired of this made up, delusional “enemy within and meddlers outside” hogwash?

I am surprised you haven’t pulled the “secret agenda” conspiracy out of your rear end yet.

Those three NON ISSUES is all you have in your paltry anti-progress, anti improvement, anti-taxi workers; rights movement war chest: (1) enemies within, (2) outsider meddling and (3) secret agenda.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Joseph Bellow is The Informant

And speaking offensive, what is more offensive to you, busting up a meeting or associating such behavior as tactics of Nazi stormtroopers?

What would the Informant have done?

Re: Re: Re: Re: Joseph Bellow's demonization

I don't "contend" anything.

I state without reservation that the spell checker accident happened.

Hook me up to a lie-detector. Put me on sodium penathol. Hypnotize me. Water board me.

But put a few grand on your assertion (with special emphasis on the first syllable.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Joseph Bellow - They've given you a number and taken away your name

Track This Mr. Tracker Man If You Can, Mr. Tracker Hacker Man: 169.254.154.247

Who is tracking the man.
Who is tracking the man,
Who is tracking you?
Who is hacking the man.
Who is hacking the man,
Who is hacking you?

OR:

There's a man who leads a life of danger
To everyone he meets he stays a stranger
With every move he makes another chance he takes
Odds are he won't live to see tomorrow

Secret agent man, secret agent man
They've given you a number and taken away your name

Beware of pretty faces that you find
A pretty face can hide an evil mind
Ah, be careful what you say
Or you'll give yourself away
Odds are you won't live to see tomorrow

Secret agent man, secret agent man
They've given you a number and taken away your name

------ lead guitar ------

Secret agent man, secret agent man
They've given you a number and taken away your name

Swingin' on the Riviera one day
And then layin' in the Bombay alley next day
Oh no, you let the wrong word slip
While kissing persuasive lips
The odds are you won't live to see tomorrow

Secret agent man, secret agent man
They've given you a number and taken away your name

Secret agent man

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Joseph Bellow - They've given you a number and taken away your name

wolf again!! hi, wolfy! ur not foolin' meeeeeee

Re: Re: Re: Joseph Bellow's demonization

wolf 'insider' weiss

Re: Re: Joseph Bellow's Unlawful Tool

From "In the Defense of the Spineless, Lilly-livered and Lame-brained: A Scatological Study:"

"It is always the empty headed zealots, the overly pompous, the supremely arrogant with feigned air of authority and wisdom, who strike out at their critics, accusing them of the very crimes and misdemeanors they themselves or their bosses so openly and wantonly commit."
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slan·der (a nounn).
1. Law - communication of false statements injurious to a person's reputation.
2. A false and malicious statement or report about someone.
v. slan·dered, slan·der·ing, slan·ders
v.tr.
To utter a slander about. See Synonyms; malign.
v.intr.
To utter or spread slander.
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Unlawful tool-calling?

Seriously. Being noted as a dupe for the those who support and defend the status quo power elite, is not slander.

Being described or identified as a "tool" of the powers that be, a supporter of the way things are is not slander.

You've already done a remarkably good job of identifying yourself as such Joey.

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RE: In the Defense of the Spineless, Lilly-livered and Lame-brained: A Scatological Study

sca·tol·o·gy

1. the study of or preoccupation with excrement or obscenity.
2. obscenity, esp. words or humor referring to excrement.
3. the study of fossil excrement.

Also called coprology.

[Origin: 1875–80; scato- + -logy]

—Related forms
scat·o·log·i·cal

sca·tol·o·gy

n. pl. sca·tol·o·gies

1. The study of fecal excrement, as in medicine, paleontology, or biology.
2.
1. An obsession with excrement or excretory functions.
2. The psychiatric study of such an obsession.
3. Obscene language or literature, especially that dealing pruriently or humorously with excrement and excretory functions.

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scatological - adjective - dealing pruriently with excrement and excretory functions; "scatological literature"

adjective
1 : of or relating to the study of excrement
2 : marked by an interest in excrement or obscenity
3 : of or relating to excrement or excremental functions

Re: Share This

would that wolfmeister would even be slightly funny. oh well.

Re: Joseph Bellow's demonization

In JB's case,it is "Children should be seen and not had."

There are only 6 listings in the National White Pages for Joe/Joseph Bellow, none are in Illinois.

Maybe his is just a figment or a disfigurement of our imagination.

Maybe he's just a fig. Go figure.

Wolf ( just another informer )

Re: Re: Joseph Bellow's demonization

Nuts, Wolf. We all know that the guy who bellows is really just Geo with a lisp. That's spelled Lutht-F'Allah. Try it in your spell checker.

Re: Re: Re: Joseph Bellow's air force

You know what comes out, (with humble apology to any members of a major European nation's air force).