DO YOU AGREE, MR. STEVE KIM of UTCC?
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What I would like to see from those who claim to be interested in helping Chicago cabdrivers:
1. Use of their real names on this discussion forum so that they will be responsible for what they say.
Most people here don't use fake names.
The few people who are using fake names aren't helping to have serious discussions about the issues.
2. Supporting George Lutfallah when he deletes a post if someone objects to an anonymous allegation about or suggestive reference to them.
For example, I could post defaming lies or suggestions about anyone without using my real name, forcing the target of the character assassination to defend himself as constantly as the attacks.
Endlessly.
However, if the truth could be determined, then the anyone responsible for falsehoods or nonsense could be seen for what they are...either a liar or a fool.
Currently, it's too easy for liars and fools to disrupt serious discussions about the issues.
3. Supporting George Lutfallah when he bans anything further from the IP addresses of those who persist in posting objectionable allegations or references anonymously.
So, if "Clueless", who I believe is Yi Tang, wants to continue making contributions, he will do so as "Yi Tang" (assuming he IS Yi Tang).
If "Ahmed R.", "Big Fat Mouth", and "Fatlu Hall", who I believe to be one person or, possibly, two people (Pankaj Kapoor, and perhaps, Prateek Sampat), want to continue making allegations or suggestive references, then they will do so as "Pankaj Kapoor", "Prateek Sampat", or whatever their real names might be.
If "Wolf Weiss" wants to continue whatever he does, he will do so as "Wolf Weiss".
4. A public affirmation (in this thread) of this committment to use your real name and to support George Lutfallah when he deletes anonymous posts about others who object to the content. An affirmation of this committment to support George Lutfallah when he bans anything further from the IP addresses of those who persist.
Now I ask you, Mr. Enger, Mr. Nathan, Mr. Weiss, Mr. Budzynski, Ms. Callahan, (and Msrs. Tang, Kapoor, and Sampat?), what say you?
What about it, Mr. and Mrs. Khan and Santucci?
Mr. Nelson? Mr. McConnell? Ms. Desai? Dr. Whoever?
WHO OBJECTS TO THIS MEASURE INTENDED TO PROMOTE SERIOUS GROUP DISCUSSION AND PREVENT ANONYMOUS, IRRESPONSIBLE INDIVIDUALS FROM DISRUPTING IT?
-Mike Foulks
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DO YOU AGREE, MR. STEVE KIM of UTCC?
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What I would like to see from those who claim to be interested in helping Chicago cabdrivers:
1. Use of their real names on this discussion forum so that they will be responsible for what they say.
Most people here don't use fake names.
The few people who are using fake names aren't helping to have serious discussions about the issues.
2. Supporting George Lutfallah when he deletes a post if someone objects to an anonymous allegation about or suggestive reference to them.
For example, I could post defaming lies or suggestions about anyone without using my real name, forcing the target of the character assassination to defend himself as constantly as the attacks.
Endlessly.
However, if the truth could be determined, then the anyone responsible for falsehoods or nonsense could be seen for what they are...either a liar or a fool.
Currently, it's too easy for liars and fools to disrupt serious discussions about the issues.
3. Supporting George Lutfallah when he bans anything further from the IP addresses of those who persist in posting objectionable allegations or references anonymously.
So, if "Clueless", who I believe is Yi Tang, wants to continue making contributions, he will do so as "Yi Tang" (assuming he IS Yi Tang).
If "Ahmed R.", "Big Fat Mouth", and "Fatlu Hall", who I believe to be one person or, possibly, two people (Pankaj Kapoor, and perhaps, Prateek Sampat), want to continue making allegations or suggestive references, then they will do so as "Pankaj Kapoor", "Prateek Sampat", or whatever their real names might be.
If "Wolf Weiss" wants to continue whatever he does, he will do so as "Wolf Weiss".
4. A public affirmation (in this thread) of this committment to use your real name and to support George Lutfallah when he deletes anonymous posts about others who object to the content. An affirmation of this committment to support George Lutfallah when he bans anything further from the IP addresses of those who persist.
Now I ask you, Mr. Enger, Mr. Nathan, Mr. Weiss, Mr. Budzynski, Ms. Callahan, (and Msrs. Tang, Kapoor, and Sampat?), what say you?
What about it, Mr. and Mrs. Khan and Santucci?
Mr. Nelson? Mr. McConnell? Ms. Desai? Dr. Whoever?
WHO OBJECTS TO THIS MEASURE INTENDED TO PROMOTE SERIOUS GROUP DISCUSSION AND PREVENT ANONYMOUS, IRRESPONSIBLE INDIVIDUALS FROM DISRUPTING IT?
-Mike Foulks
I'm sure no one cares that you use your own exclusive name:
The President of the CC0, or CC0-1
If you like, check out the real Mike Foulks and his families at:
http://mikefoulks.tripod.com/id11.html
"Clueless",
I always use my real name and this isn't me or my family:
"http://mikefoulks.tripod.com/id11.html"
George Lutfallah, please remove these two posts as they suggest:
1. I don't use my real name; (I always use my real name.)
2. That "http://mikefoulks.tripod.com/id11.html" is about me or my family; (It isn't about me or my family.)
3. The poster is anonymous.
George Lutfallah, I ask that you warn the person who is posting these distracting lies and nonsense that you will ban anything further if they persist doing so.
If they insisting on doing so, they should use their real names so that they will be held responsible for their lies and foolishness.
Thank you.
-Mike Foulks
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I'm sure no one cares that you use your own exclusive name:
The President of the CC0, or CC0-1
If you like, check out the real Mike Foulks and his families at:
http://mikefoulks.tripod.com/id11.html
How difficult to use your own real official name?
Michael D. Foulks
Who is not the same as Mike Foulks "http://mikefoulks.tripod.com/id11.html"
Stop with the computer research. Even if he'd wish to be the Mike Foulks from somewhere out in Pennsylvania, who cares? We've got taxi industry concerns here. Drop it. Foulks has comments about the industry that need to be addressed, and further personal attacks on him aren't necessary.
Everyone now realizes what he's about, and his level of credibility is close to zero whether or not anyone thinks him a genius. Lots of criminals have genius intellects. So stop with the attacks on him cause they waste time.
Mr. Nathan,
There's nothing wrong with using the computer to research anything or anybody.
The problem starts when people can't understand that the computer spits out information that isn't about the subject in question.
"Clueless" has proved that he's "clueless".
What are the "taxi industry concerns", Mr. Nathan?
You don't ever seem to answer questions about these blanket statements about "issues" you make. Why is that?
You wrote: "Everyone now realizes what he's about, and his level of credibility is close to zero whether or not anyone thinks him a genius."
Who is "everyone"?
What EXACTLY am I "about"?
My credibility hasn't changed and it's never been "close to zero"?
I am a genius, and why is this such a fascinating topic, my I.Q.?
Does my being a genius make me a "criminal", Mr. Nathan?
Seems like there was a conspiracy to get me to shut up or join people who see me as "competition" and my wrongful conviction was seen as the means to blackmail me into doing it.
The problem started when I didn't respond to this "method" of "uniting" and those who really hoped that I was going to lose my chauffeur's license based on this wrongful conviction are simply proving how much animosity they have towards me and how stupid and uninformed they are.
Hell, I don't even think the "revelation" of this wrongful conviction (which is well-known to many cabdrivers) would hurt me much in any election of cabdrivers.
I might just run in the third CCO election to prove that!
Why doesn't "Big Fat Mouth" reveal his identity and challenge me if he's so concerned about a "convict" representing cabdrivers?
All he needed was 26 votes in May to become the current President of the CCO.
How many votes did the Chairman of the UTCC receive?
Zero or "close to zero"?
-Mike Foulks
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Stop with the computer research. Even if he'd wish to be the Mike Foulks from somewhere out in Pennsylvania, who cares? We've got taxi industry concerns here. Drop it. Foulks has comments about the industry that need to be addressed, and further personal attacks on him aren't necessary.
Everyone now realizes what he's about, and his level of credibility is close to zero whether or not anyone thinks him a genius. Lots of criminals have genius intellects. So stop with the attacks on him cause they waste time.
Posts that were removed were reposts verbatim that were originally penned by Mike D Foulks. I gave you a chance to clear yourself. You refused to respond when you saw I am in the know about your crimes. James is scheduled for an interview this Saturday. It will be interesting.
What happened to your own site Mike? Besides this McGee guy Nathan claims to know, I do not believe you have one other real cco member. I never saw an actual post from a cco member on your board Mike. Opinions are the foundation of message boards like this one. Facts are too. Like the fact you are a recently (2005) convicted felon.
Your own language and other terse words were much worse than any truths I wrote about here Mr. D Foulks. Again, my opinion. Not allegation but opinion. Do you need a repost of some of your best work to refresh your memory?
Now for a question, not an allegation: Do we as a group want a convicted felon that had a 24 month mental health probation tacked onto the end of his sentence to represent us before the city council and in front of the general public as well? If the answer is no, we should make it a point to insure that this nonsense will stop. If one doesn't have a chauffeurs license he/she cannot claim to be a Chicago driver. Norma Reyes will be contacted to make sure D. Foulks record is known to her. Lets go by the current laws. If this disqualifies so be it. If not there is still an election. One a goat could win. Again, opinion, not allegation.
Last post on the cco site is July 19th. This was a post by Mike himself. Judge for yourself.
George Lutfallah,
Please remove this post for the following reasons:
1. It is anonymous.
2. It suggests that the poster "gave me a chance to clear (myself)".
2A. I don't know who the poster is; it suggests that I need "clearing".
3. It suggests that "(I) refused to respond when (I) saw that (he) was in the know about (my) crimes."
3A. I have responded extensively about my wrongful convictions. This is a blatant lie.
4. It suggests that "James is scheduled for an interview this Saturday".
4A. I can only conclude that this refers to someone I am related to by my mother's second marriage who made false allegations about me twice. I can give you contact information which should confirm that there is no "scheduled interview" with this man.
5. It suggest that something "happened" to the CCO website; (nothing happened).
6. It suggest that Mr. McGee is the only "other real CCO member". (this is not true).
7. It suggests that my name is "D. Foulks". (it is not.)
8. It suggests that I had a "24-month mental health probation tacked onto the end of my sentence". (this is not true; I never was accepted into mental health probation as I didn't have a mental illness. In fact, my regular supervised probation was terminated early as well.)
9. It suggests that I "don't have a chauffeurs' license" (I do.)
10. It again suggests that I am "D. Foulks" in reference to contacting Ms. Reyes. (I am not, nor have I ever been or used "D. Foulks".)
11. It suggests that "current laws" would "disqualify" me from holding, having, or renewing my chaufeur's license. (I have always legally had a chauufeur's license. Period.)
12. Again, this is an anonymous poster who clearly is posting falsehoods or suggestive allegations and can't be held responsible for them because he is doing so anonymously.
If the poster wishes to go "on record" with these lies and nonsense, he should do so using his real name so he can be held accountable.
I ask that you remove both of these posts. Thank you.
-Mike Foulks
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Posts that were removed were reposts verbatim that were originally penned by Mike D Foulks. I gave you a chance to clear yourself. You refused to respond when you saw I am in the know about your crimes. James is scheduled for an interview this Saturday. It will be interesting.
What happened to your own site Mike? Besides this McGee guy Nathan claims to know, I do not believe you have one other real cco member. I never saw an actual post from a cco member on your board Mike. Opinions are the foundation of message boards like this one. Facts are too. Like the fact you are a recently (2005) convicted felon.
Your own language and other terse words were much worse than any truths I wrote about here Mr. D Foulks. Again, my opinion. Not allegation but opinion. Do you need a repost of some of your best work to refresh your memory?
Now for a question, not an allegation: Do we as a group want a convicted felon that had a 24 month mental health probation tacked onto the end of his sentence to represent us before the city council and in front of the general public as well? If the answer is no, we should make it a point to insure that this nonsense will stop. If one doesn't have a chauffeurs license he/she cannot claim to be a Chicago driver. Norma Reyes will be contacted to make sure D. Foulks record is known to her. Lets go by the current laws. If this disqualifies so be it. If not there is still an election. One a goat could win. Again, opinion, not allegation.
Note the reasoning of the posting below
In defense of George Lutfallah, I'm sure he didn't know of Mikes criminal background when he was publically backing Mike. There was also recently another guy that had many fooled into thinking he was a great hero. One we should be proud to call one of our own. This so called hero had committed crimes against us drivers and also federal ones in the past. He was caught and terminated from his assocaition. These are facts that George was given my sources to. George didn't know of this until after his paper was published.
George is allowed to fall for these gold plated con men just like most of us do from time to time. He's human. I for one just ask George to act with the knowledge in hand at the time. Or in other words keep in mind what he is in the know about when he speaks.
Why this post should be removed:
1. It refers to Richard Lang, who this poster has suggested "cheated drivers" by breaking some kind of law.
1A. I can't determine anything by these allegations other than this poster is trying to defame Mr. Lang anonymously.
2. It is anonymous.
3. It suggest that George Lutfallah "publicly backed me". George Lutfallah has never "publicly backed me".
Please remove this post. If the poster wishes to go "on record" to make a claim against Mr. Lang, he should do so using his real name so he can be held accountable.
Thank you.
-Mike Foulks
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In defense of George Lutfallah, I'm sure he didn't know of Mikes criminal background when he was publically backing Mike. There was also recently another guy that had many fooled into thinking he was a great hero. One we should be proud to call one of our own. This so called hero had committed crimes against us drivers and also federal ones in the past. He was caught and terminated from his assocaition. These are facts that George was given my sources to. George didn't know of this until after his paper was published.
George is allowed to fall for these gold plated con men just like most of us do from time to time. He's human. I for one just ask George to act with the knowledge in hand at the time. Or in other words keep in mind what he is in the know about when he speaks.
I wonder if George Lutfallah is going to bite at having Foulks make determinations as to what gets cut out of the Forum of the Dispatcher? Should a convicted felon be the one to make those policy decisions? I say even if he's right in his suggestions, he's wrong for doing so. Felon Foulks should confine his thoughts to industry issues and leave the First Amendment decisions to others who might be more appropriate people to make such calls.
Donald Nathan
Mr. Nathan,
Thanks for yet another misleading comment...not!
I am asking the regular contributors here to support George Lutfallah if he deletes an anonymous post based on the objectionable reference to the objector.
I am not "determing forum policy". I haven't even spoken to Mr. Lutfallah about it.
I am trying to see where you all stand on this issue.
It is obvious to me that "Clueless" is Mr. Tang. Why can't he post using his real name?
I suspect that "Big Fat Mouth" is Pankaj Kapoor.
People who are disrupting serious discussion of the issues should be responsible for their comments.
Do you agree, Mr. Nathan?
A simple YES or NO.
There's nothing about my wrongful conviction which prevents me from making appropriate comments about this issue.
Please explain otherwise, if only to give you a chance to use "Felon" and "Foulks" in the same sentence.
Are you aware that pretty much everyone who might care is well aware that I am a "felon", however wrongfully-convicetd?
So am I right in my suggestions?
How can I be "wrong" for doing so?
You are still a "schmuck", Mr. Nathan.
Don't tell me how to "confine" my thoughts or comments, you meddling schmuck.
-Mike Foulks
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I wonder if George Lutfallah is going to bite at having Foulks make determinations as to what gets cut out of the Forum of the Dispatcher? Should a convicted felon be the one to make those policy decisions? I say even if he's right in his suggestions, he's wrong for doing so. Felon Foulks should confine his thoughts to industry issues and leave the First Amendment decisions to others who might be more appropriate people to make such calls.
Donald Nathan
1) George was given my sources. He now knows what I have posted is true.
2) I am going to send George a copy of Mr. Foulks felony sentence from the official records I obtained from the court system. It clearly shows a 24 month mental health probation tacked onto the end of the incarceration time.
3) I would like to hear from George himself that he has never publically backed you. Look at my next post that will contain a public backing from George.
Subject: The new CCO Web site
Name: George Lutfallah
Date Posted: Jun 21, 08 - 8:49 PM
Email: george@chicagodispatcher.com
Message: Nice site Mike. I look forward to checking it frequently. Let me know if there's anything the Chicago Dispatcher or I can do to support you.
Regards,
George Lutfallah
Chicago Dispatcher
Mike you are the real phony. The post above came from your own website. I think the word jerk is in the dictionary.
"Big Fat Mouth",
Phony? From the guy who won't post his real name, that's a laugh.
George Lutfallah has never publicly supported me.
You call that "support"?
"Let me know if there's anything the Chicago Dispatcher or I can do to support you."
What was "done" to "support (me)"?
He made an offer of non-specific "support" which I never responded to or used, so whatever "support" you are imagining has never been defined.
"Jerk"?
Come on, Pankaj Kapoor can do better than "jerk".
Why don't you try first to define my "phoniness"?
-Mike Foulks
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Subject: The new CCO Web site
Name: George Lutfallah
Date Posted: Jun 21, 08 - 8:49 PM
Email: george@chicagodispatcher.com
Message: Nice site Mike. I look forward to checking it frequently. Let me know if there's anything the Chicago Dispatcher or I can do to support you.
Regards,
George Lutfallah
Chicago Dispatcher
Mike you are the real phony. The post above came from your own website. I think the word jerk is in the dictionary.
"Big Fat Mouth",
What did you post was true?
If it isn't true, why should I have to spend my time proving it untrue, and then you have no responsibility for misleading people or wasting my time?
If what you post is so "true", why must you hide behind a fake name?
If those courts documents have "scrambled victim info", how did you "unscramble it"?
You are a liar, Mr. "Big Fat Mouth".
You are also a coward.
How does George Lutfallah even know that the court documents you are sending are valid copies?
There's nothing "tacked onto" the end of the "incarceration time".
I'm actually glad you are making such a big deal about this.
How can a judge sentence someone to "24-month mental health probation" who doesn't have a mental illness?
Maybe a judge who doesn't follow proper procedures?
I would love to hear Mr. Nathan's "expert" explanation of such an injustice.
I am asking George Lutfallah to remove these posts because they are made anonymously, they provide misleading information, and they are distracting from serious discussion about the issues.
-Mike Foulks
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1) George was given my sources. He now knows what I have posted is true.
2) I am going to send George a copy of Mr. Foulks felony sentence from the official records I obtained from the court system. It clearly shows a 24 month mental health probation tacked onto the end of the incarceration time.
3) I would like to hear from George himself that he has never publically backed you. Look at my next post that will contain a public backing from George.
Felon Foulks claims his guilty plea was wrung out of him unjustly. He CLAIMS he got shunted into a 24 month probation that included a "mental" although he's clean as a whistle between the ears --- LOL. He flaps his wings about how Judge Tobin violated procedures and did this and that and should be defrocked and yadda, yadda, yadda.
Where's the beef?
I've got the bits and snatches of the record at this point. But it's still not clear whether there really is an appeal going on. Is there? I think the cabdriver community deserves to know. After all, Felon Foulks attacks everyone who doesn't have a felony recond. He loves to go for the short hairs of everyone who never was arrested for ANYTHING, much less on felony charges.
I think it's high time Felon Foulks come forth. Come on Mike - vomit it out. Your stomach will feel better when the truth is out there. What's the court number on appeal? With that we can track the progress of it. We'll wish you well in your efforts to clear your name. But until you prove yourself innocent after pleading guilty to felony charges, we're going to presume you guilty of a felony as you were charged.
A lousy, stinking low-life felon.
Stop attacking everyone in the taxi industry, felon. You have no right to be the attacker. You are scum from the sewer. Whether people use their names or not, you have no right to attack them.
Donald Nathan
Mr. Nathan, "Director of the CPTDA",
I won't even give you the time of day.
You are a lawyer. You want the Appellate Docket number? Go get it, if you can.
Maybe it's part of the "missing pages" of the court file?
I never "flapped my wings" about having Judge Tobin "defrocked".
Ms. Tobin stepped down from the bench very shortly after her last involvement with this case.
If she hadn't, I would have expected her to be doing nothing but marriage ceremonies right now.
I haven't "attacked everyone in the taxi industry", Mr. Nathan.
Are you "everyone"?
"lousy, stinking low-life"?
"scum from the sewer"?
Are these terms you learned in law school, Mr. Nathan?
Or are you just passing on the "compliments" you have received as a lawyer for the fleet owners and insurance companies over the years?
Okay, Mr. Nathan, I shouldn't be so mean to you after all:
It's 9:30 AM. Now, begone lawyer-fool!
-Mike Foulks
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Felon Foulks claims his guilty plea was wrung out of him unjustly. He CLAIMS he got shunted into a 24 month probation that included a "mental" although he's clean as a whistle between the ears --- LOL. He flaps his wings about how Judge Tobin violated procedures and did this and that and should be defrocked and yadda, yadda, yadda.
Where's the beef?
I've got the bits and snatches of the record at this point. But it's still not clear whether there really is an appeal going on. Is there? I think the cabdriver community deserves to know. After all, Felon Foulks attacks everyone who doesn't have a felony recond. He loves to go for the short hairs of everyone who never was arrested for ANYTHING, much less on felony charges.
I think it's high time Felon Foulks come forth. Come on Mike - vomit it out. Your stomach will feel better when the truth is out there. What's the court number on appeal? With that we can track the progress of it. We'll wish you well in your efforts to clear your name. But until you prove yourself innocent after pleading guilty to felony charges, we're going to presume you guilty of a felony as you were charged.
A lousy, stinking low-life felon.
Stop attacking everyone in the taxi industry, felon. You have no right to be the attacker. You are scum from the sewer. Whether people use their names or not, you have no right to attack them.
Donald Nathan
Why would I ask the time of day from a felon, Foulks? I wouldn't be able to rely on the answer.
Donald Nathan
