we won't address mr. foulks directly, as he has shown himself to have no moral nor ethical compass. furthermore, he has expressed the belief that neither i nor mr. kim have any integrity. it is pointless to engage in public or private discourse with someone like this. it would serve no purpose. it is like arguing with a crying baby.
we have vowed not to address our differences with melissa callahan in order to save her and george lutfallah any public embarassment. however, if mike or george keep bringing up her name and our history together we will not be able to keep this pledge. please take that under advisement.
ps. for those cabdrivers who might be interested, "kim" does not mean gold in korean, nor does "kim-chee" mean cabbage. kimchee is the national dish of korea, usuallly pickled cabbage, but actually generically it can mean any number of hundreds of pickled items that help northern asian people from korea thru manchuria, and siberia get thru the cold winters with vegetables to eat.
it is far from worthless, it is actually worth more than gold, as it has allowed millions of people to survive the winters for thousands of years.
A good example why Peter Enger isn't a good organizer.
I point out that Mr. Enger lies when he claims that UTCC steering committee members such as Mr. Kim and himself don't post here using fake names.
Mr. Enger responds: "we won't address mr. foulks directly, as he has shown himself to have no moral nor ethical compass."
You won't address the fact that you are a liar and a hypocrite, Mr. Enger. No moral or ethical compass? How? By pointing out your lies and hypocrisy?
Mr. Enger writes: "furthermore, he has expressed the belief that neither i nor mr. kim have any integrity."
It's not a "belief" I expressed, Mr. Enger. It is a fact.
Mr. Enger writes: "it is pointless to engage in public or private discourse with someone like this. it would serve no purpose. it is like arguing with a crying baby."
First, I don't see the analogy.
Second, it is pointless to engage in a discussion forum with someone who is obviously trying to create a false impression by posting lies and misinformation using fake names.
Third, you won't address me directly? This is like arguing with a bratty child. Are you a bratty child, Mr. Enger?
Mr. Enger writs: "we have vowed not to address our differences with melissa callahan in order to save her and george lutfallah any public embarassment."
When you say "we", you mean Mr. Kim? When did his "vow" start? Just now? Because he has been "addressing" his "differences with Melissa Callahan", that is, blabbing about her personal life to anyone who will listen.
He does so for his own self-interests, not Ms. Callahan's.
Mr. Enger writes: "however, if mike or george keep bringing up her name and our history together we will not be able to keep this pledge. please take that under advisement."
You are an alcoholic, Mr. Enger. You want to take no responsibilty for your decision to hurt others. It's always someone else's fault.
After all, you warned us, right?
What's wrong with this "history", Mr. Enger?: You and Mr. Kim were leeches upon Ms. Callahan's popularity until you realized that you had no control over Ms. Callahan. You then sold out your fake "loyalty" to her and the AUPD to serve the interests of Prateek Sampat and the American Friends Service Committee (AFSC) and your own selfish ego.
You criticized me for starting the CCO (with an election, no less)? But when you started the "UTCC" (without an election) a short time later, there was no parallel?
What a hypocrite Mr. Enger is! Drunks usually are.
Mr. Enger writes: "ps. for those cabdrivers who might be interested, "kim" does not mean gold in korean"
You don't think I have Korean friends, Mr. Enger? One of my earliest friends in life was named Byong-soo Kim.
Ask a Korean how to say "gold" in Korean. He'll say "Kim".
Kim-chee is cabbage, Mr. Enger. We didn't need the explanation of what Kim-chee is.
Mr. Kim can spell his new name either way, "Mr. Kim-chi" or "Mr. Kim-chee".
I like the second way better. This way I can call you guys, "Mr. Kim-chee(ch) and Mr. Kimmy-chong".
It's a sixties/seventies drug culture reference. I'm sure even Mr. Nathan gets it. Please explain it to "Mr. Kim-chee".
Cabbage isn't worth more than gold. Maybe to you, if it gets you high. Or, maybe if you are high already, Kimmy-Chong!
Can you guys send me another bumper sticker? I need one for my posterior.
-Mike Foulks
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we won't address mr. foulks directly, as he has shown himself to have no moral nor ethical compass. furthermore, he has expressed the belief that neither i nor mr. kim have any integrity. it is pointless to engage in public or private discourse with someone like this. it would serve no purpose. it is like arguing with a crying baby.
we have vowed not to address our differences with melissa callahan in order to save her and george lutfallah any public embarassment. however, if mike or george keep bringing up her name and our history together we will not be able to keep this pledge. please take that under advisement.
ps. for those cabdrivers who might be interested, "kim" does not mean gold in korean, nor does "kim-chee" mean cabbage. kimchee is the national dish of korea, usuallly pickled cabbage, but actually generically it can mean any number of hundreds of pickled items that help northern asian people from korea thru manchuria, and siberia get thru the cold winters with vegetables to eat.
it is far from worthless, it is actually worth more than gold, as it has allowed millions of people to survive the winters for thousands of years.
What did the mother mean to say to the son from time to time, until giving up?
Nothing is right in his mind, and the whole world is full of lies.
Truth: Mike Foulks and George Lutfallah BETRAYED MELISSA CALLAHAN to make "CC-0".
You are a smutty fibber, Mr. Foulks-felon.
Nobody cares why you flip flop fib.
Nobody gives a hee-haw about Mike Long Ears Foulks.
Mike Foulks is stuck in his two-bit-three-time-looser-felon game trying to get back to jail.
People are concerned because Mike "no-cc0-fake-president" Foulks is pretending that "cc-0" represents any Chicago cabdriver's interests (not even his own).
-MOLR
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Replying to:
Truth: Both Peter Enger and Steve Kim BETRAYED MELISSA CALLAHAN to make "UTCC".
You are a dirty liar, Mr. Kim-chi.
Nobody cares why you lie.
Nobody cares about Steve Kim.
Peter Enger is stuck in reverse trying to get back to 1968.
People are concerned because Peter "Engine-Trouble" Enger is pretending that "UTCC" represents most Chicago cabdrivers' interests.
-Mike Foulks
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George,I can not believe you are not a person who has a minimum human attitude.
George, you should tell yourself.
- Who attack to Melissa first? Until now nobody, except you.
- Who broke the door of Melissa's house? It was you.
- Who made a violence to Melissa? It was you.
- Who made a scaring to Melissa's children? It was you
- Who erase the all of telephone no for cab drivers from Melissa's cell phone? It was you.
- Who attack the AUPD meeting at last year? It was you
You did all to Melissa, and now you attack to Peter. Who are you, George? Do you have a moral?
Do you really think Melissa can be the leader after you broke all to her? I do not think so. You made a mistake and you blow her off from taxi driver's movement. After that, how people can work with Melissa?
George, you should not mention Melissa's name in here. But you don't. Are you crazy?How can you said Peter betrayed Melissa? Until now, nobody betrayed melissa, but you only did.
The truth is truth.
Steve Kim
George Lutfallah has nothing to do with the Chicago Cabdriver Organization (CCO).
The creation of the CCO wasn't an act of "betrayal" to anyone.
Interesting how you think so.
Why are you afraid to post your real name to these lies and baseless opinions?
-Mike Foulks
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Replying to:
Truth: Mike Foulks and George Lutfallah BETRAYED MELISSA CALLAHAN to make "CC-0".
You are a smutty fibber, Mr. Foulks-felon.
Nobody cares why you flip flop fib.
Nobody gives a hee-haw about Mike Long Ears Foulks.
Mike Foulks is stuck in his two-bit-three-time-looser-felon game trying to get back to jail.
People are concerned because Mike "no-cc0-fake-president" Foulks is pretending that "cc-0" represents any Chicago cabdriver's interests (not even his own).
-MOLR
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Replying to:
Truth: Both Peter Enger and Steve Kim BETRAYED MELISSA CALLAHAN to make "UTCC".
You are a dirty liar, Mr. Kim-chi.
Nobody cares why you lie.
Nobody cares about Steve Kim.
Peter Enger is stuck in reverse trying to get back to 1968.
People are concerned because Peter "Engine-Trouble" Enger is pretending that "UTCC" represents most Chicago cabdrivers' interests.
-Mike Foulks
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Replying to:
George,I can not believe you are not a person who has a minimum human attitude.
George, you should tell yourself.
- Who attack to Melissa first? Until now nobody, except you.
- Who broke the door of Melissa's house? It was you.
- Who made a violence to Melissa? It was you.
- Who made a scaring to Melissa's children? It was you
- Who erase the all of telephone no for cab drivers from Melissa's cell phone? It was you.
- Who attack the AUPD meeting at last year? It was you
You did all to Melissa, and now you attack to Peter. Who are you, George? Do you have a moral?
Do you really think Melissa can be the leader after you broke all to her? I do not think so. You made a mistake and you blow her off from taxi driver's movement. After that, how people can work with Melissa?
George, you should not mention Melissa's name in here. But you don't. Are you crazy?How can you said Peter betrayed Melissa? Until now, nobody betrayed melissa, but you only did.
The truth is truth.
Steve Kim
What makes you think I am afraid to post my real name?
Which lies?
Which baseless opinions?
-MOLR
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Replying to:
George Lutfallah has nothing to do with the Chicago Cabdriver Organization (CCO).
The creation of the CCO wasn't an act of "betrayal" to anyone.
Interesting how you think so.
Why are you afraid to post your real name to these lies and baseless opinions?
-Mike Foulks
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Replying to:
Truth: Mike Foulks and George Lutfallah BETRAYED MELISSA CALLAHAN to make "CC-0".
You are a smutty fibber, Mr. Foulks-felon.
Nobody cares why you flip flop fib.
Nobody gives a hee-haw about Mike Long Ears Foulks.
Mike Foulks is stuck in his two-bit-three-time-looser-felon game trying to get back to jail.
People are concerned because Mike "no-cc0-fake-president" Foulks is pretending that "cc-0" represents any Chicago cabdriver's interests (not even his own).
-MOLR
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Replying to:
Truth: Both Peter Enger and Steve Kim BETRAYED MELISSA CALLAHAN to make "UTCC".
You are a dirty liar, Mr. Kim-chi.
Nobody cares why you lie.
Nobody cares about Steve Kim.
Peter Enger is stuck in reverse trying to get back to 1968.
People are concerned because Peter "Engine-Trouble" Enger is pretending that "UTCC" represents most Chicago cabdrivers' interests.
-Mike Foulks
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Replying to:
George,I can not believe you are not a person who has a minimum human attitude.
George, you should tell yourself.
- Who attack to Melissa first? Until now nobody, except you.
- Who broke the door of Melissa's house? It was you.
- Who made a violence to Melissa? It was you.
- Who made a scaring to Melissa's children? It was you
- Who erase the all of telephone no for cab drivers from Melissa's cell phone? It was you.
- Who attack the AUPD meeting at last year? It was you
You did all to Melissa, and now you attack to Peter. Who are you, George? Do you have a moral?
Do you really think Melissa can be the leader after you broke all to her? I do not think so. You made a mistake and you blow her off from taxi driver's movement. After that, how people can work with Melissa?
George, you should not mention Melissa's name in here. But you don't. Are you crazy?How can you said Peter betrayed Melissa? Until now, nobody betrayed melissa, but you only did.
The truth is truth.
Steve Kim
1. Because you obviously are afraid to post your real name.
2. LIE FROM MOLR: "Mike Foulks and George Lutfallah BETRAYED MELISSA CALLAHAN to make "CC-0"."
3. BASELESS OPINIONS FROM MOLR:
"You are a smutty fibber, Mr. Foulks-felon.
Nobody cares why you flip flop fib.
Nobody gives a hee-haw about Mike Long Ears Foulks.
Mike Foulks is stuck in his two-bit-three-time-looser-felon game trying to get back to jail.
People are concerned because Mike "no-cc0-fake-president" Foulks is pretending that "cc-0" represents any Chicago cabdriver's interests (not even his own)."
-Mike Foulks
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Replying to:
What makes you think I am afraid to post my real name?
Which lies?
Which baseless opinions?
-MOLR
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Replying to:
George Lutfallah has nothing to do with the Chicago Cabdriver Organization (CCO).
The creation of the CCO wasn't an act of "betrayal" to anyone.
Interesting how you think so.
Why are you afraid to post your real name to these lies and baseless opinions?
-Mike Foulks
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Replying to:
Truth: Mike Foulks and George Lutfallah BETRAYED MELISSA CALLAHAN to make "CC-0".
You are a smutty fibber, Mr. Foulks-felon.
Nobody cares why you flip flop fib.
Nobody gives a hee-haw about Mike Long Ears Foulks.
Mike Foulks is stuck in his two-bit-three-time-looser-felon game trying to get back to jail.
People are concerned because Mike "no-cc0-fake-president" Foulks is pretending that "cc-0" represents any Chicago cabdriver's interests (not even his own).
-MOLR
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Replying to:
Truth: Both Peter Enger and Steve Kim BETRAYED MELISSA CALLAHAN to make "UTCC".
You are a dirty liar, Mr. Kim-chi.
Nobody cares why you lie.
Nobody cares about Steve Kim.
Peter Enger is stuck in reverse trying to get back to 1968.
People are concerned because Peter "Engine-Trouble" Enger is pretending that "UTCC" represents most Chicago cabdrivers' interests.
-Mike Foulks
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Replying to:
George,I can not believe you are not a person who has a minimum human attitude.
George, you should tell yourself.
- Who attack to Melissa first? Until now nobody, except you.
- Who broke the door of Melissa's house? It was you.
- Who made a violence to Melissa? It was you.
- Who made a scaring to Melissa's children? It was you
- Who erase the all of telephone no for cab drivers from Melissa's cell phone? It was you.
- Who attack the AUPD meeting at last year? It was you
You did all to Melissa, and now you attack to Peter. Who are you, George? Do you have a moral?
Do you really think Melissa can be the leader after you broke all to her? I do not think so. You made a mistake and you blow her off from taxi driver's movement. After that, how people can work with Melissa?
George, you should not mention Melissa's name in here. But you don't. Are you crazy?How can you said Peter betrayed Melissa? Until now, nobody betrayed melissa, but you only did.
The truth is truth.
Steve Kim
Some of us aren't afraid of bullies. Some of us kick bullies in the shins. That's what I do in court every day with words. You, foulks, are a big bully, and you deserve kick after kick after kick.
You want it from someone who posts a real name? You get it from me instead. I'll be the champion for all the guys who post as MOLR or anything else against bullies like you - perfect for appointment as Commissioner Reyes successor. I hope Mayor Daley reads these postings. He'll see how his loyal servant performs.
Obviusly afraid?
You have some real rough issues to deal with friend.
You can't see, hear, smell, touch or taste me. There is nothing except my posting ID, the (Masked On-Line-Ranger), so how can you tell I am afraid to use my real name?
But somehow you "know" I am afraid? Are you gifted with the power of mental telepathy? Maybe you belong in a carnival freak show instead of behind the wheel of a cab or on this board?
How did you arrive at the conclusion that one who uses a posting ID other than his/her real name is afraid?
Can you read people's minds? Are able to instinctively tell someone is afraid over the internet?
What great treatise on psychology, mental health or medicine explicitly proved that using an on-line ID is proof that one is afraid to use one's real name?
How does that make sense to you? What if I said my name is Jim Hoyer?
What if my posting ID was Long Ears, or Father of Fools, or Donkey Boy?
If you really believe that using a "fake" posting ID is a sign of fear, you may have some serious problems about interpreting human behavior - your past seems to prove that out.
Your conclusion that I am afraid to use my real name may be a reaction of some kind rooted in your own fears, anxieties and misgivings about the people around you.
Can you prove my previous post contains lies? Just claiming that I lied and that my statements are baseless opinion doesn't prove a thing, except that your are full of it more than others.
All this talk about fear, denial, betrayal. Who did what to whom.
Hey, Mr. Lufallah, let's print all this crap and pass it out to cab drivers.
Let the jury of your peers decide - if they even care at all about the rantings of a small-time crook and con-artist who drives a cab and claims he is anything more than just a small time-crook and con-artist.
An alternate theory to why I use a fake posting ID: Maybe I am a convicted murder, escaped from a life sentence in the pen and there is nothing I hate more than two-bit snakes who double talk and back peddle like Foulks. Maybe I was convicted of torturing my family to death but was saved from capital punishment because I confessed.
Do you really want to **** me off, little **** ball by suggesting I am afraid? Want to find out if I am bluffing? You're in that hotel on 22nd? You drive out of Carriage Cab on South Wabash? Your mother who got you locked up still lives in Palatine?
-MOLR
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1. Because you obviously are afraid to post your real name.
2. LIE FROM MOLR: "Mike Foulks and George Lutfallah BETRAYED MELISSA CALLAHAN to make "CC-0"."
3. BASELESS OPINIONS FROM MOLR:
"You are a smutty fibber, Mr. Foulks-felon.
Nobody cares why you flip flop fib.
Nobody gives a hee-haw about Mike Long Ears Foulks.
Mike Foulks is stuck in his two-bit-three-time-looser-felon game trying to get back to jail.
People are concerned because Mike "no-cc0-fake-president" Foulks is pretending that "cc-0" represents any Chicago cabdriver's interests (not even his own)."
-Mike Foulks
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Replying to:
What makes you think I am afraid to post my real name?
Which lies?
Which baseless opinions?
-MOLR
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Replying to:
George Lutfallah has nothing to do with the Chicago Cabdriver Organization (CCO).
The creation of the CCO wasn't an act of "betrayal" to anyone.
Interesting how you think so.
Why are you afraid to post your real name to these lies and baseless opinions?
-Mike Foulks
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Replying to:
Truth: Mike Foulks and George Lutfallah BETRAYED MELISSA CALLAHAN to make "CC-0".
You are a smutty fibber, Mr. Foulks-felon.
Nobody cares why you flip flop fib.
Nobody gives a hee-haw about Mike Long Ears Foulks.
Mike Foulks is stuck in his two-bit-three-time-looser-felon game trying to get back to jail.
People are concerned because Mike "no-cc0-fake-president" Foulks is pretending that "cc-0" represents any Chicago cabdriver's interests (not even his own).
-MOLR
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Replying to:
Truth: Both Peter Enger and Steve Kim BETRAYED MELISSA CALLAHAN to make "UTCC".
You are a dirty liar, Mr. Kim-chi.
Nobody cares why you lie.
Nobody cares about Steve Kim.
Peter Enger is stuck in reverse trying to get back to 1968.
People are concerned because Peter "Engine-Trouble" Enger is pretending that "UTCC" represents most Chicago cabdrivers' interests.
-Mike Foulks
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Replying to:
George,I can not believe you are not a person who has a minimum human attitude.
George, you should tell yourself.
- Who attack to Melissa first? Until now nobody, except you.
- Who broke the door of Melissa's house? It was you.
- Who made a violence to Melissa? It was you.
- Who made a scaring to Melissa's children? It was you
- Who erase the all of telephone no for cab drivers from Melissa's cell phone? It was you.
- Who attack the AUPD meeting at last year? It was you
You did all to Melissa, and now you attack to Peter. Who are you, George? Do you have a moral?
Do you really think Melissa can be the leader after you broke all to her? I do not think so. You made a mistake and you blow her off from taxi driver's movement. After that, how people can work with Melissa?
George, you should not mention Melissa's name in here. But you don't. Are you crazy?How can you said Peter betrayed Melissa? Until now, nobody betrayed melissa, but you only did.
The truth is truth.
Steve Kim
He's done it to me too, Peter ~ "3/8 schmuck" slid right out of his mouth like it would any skin head's. It came out perfectly naturally.
I'm out by Big Sur this Labor Day weekend. Out here to the left of the San Andreas Fault, no one asks me what my ethnicity is. No one cares. And I don't care what anyone's is any more than they do. We're Americans out here. We respect one another. Same in Chicago in the taxi industry. We respect one another.
Most folks out in the West don't make death threats over the telephone either. Same for Chicago now that I think about it. In fact, I don't know another cabdriver in the entire Chicago Metro area (I've served thousands) who ever was even charged with a felony - of any kind - much less convicted of one.
Maybe Commissioner Reyes can give us some numbers here. Perhaps she will come forward with figures of the number whose licenses have been lifted over the last few years because of felony convictions.
I'd love to know how many have been lifted or suspended since April 28, 2008 when the ordinance we're attacking went into effect. If Judge Epstein denies the City's motion to dismiss, this is the kind of thing Commissioner Reyes is going to have to talk about at a deposition or the City Attorney will have to respond to in written questions.
By the way, the progress of the lawsuit is public record. You, foulks, are invited to go to the court file to bring yourself current. I see no point in indulging you with the time of day with any information that you would only use against the interests of The Magnificent Seven and all other cabdrivers out there who are rooting for them. You are their enemy - they know it, and so too do most out there who read this "Forum".
Whether we win or go down in flames, I'll promise all of you that we'll give the City one good fight - one they'll remember. And we'll smack them again - and again when they ram bad ordinances down our throats.
Lets do something about credit card law. We have to flow. I think it is garbage with the DCS. Daley and Reyes need to go to hell
include just about all of them. i will re-write them to that they dont' target anyone in particular, and post them everywhere, so all chicago cabdrivers can be armed with the proper questions to ask, and when and if they get the answers, they can make up their own minds about what they want to do.
we in the utcc trust the genius of the people to make the right decisions, once they are given the truth and the right answers to well thought out questions.
after all, george lutfallah him self said they were 'great questions!"
