I will give this alot of thought.
A big Thank You to Ted B. The leader is the one who appears in public and gives his/her name. A fellow with a felony record would give all of us a black eye in the press.
Who are the clowns?
The people who have:
1) mis-spelled
2) mis-pronounced
3) mis-understood and
4) mis-taken
the real name of the former organization known as the Chicago Professional Taxi Cab Drivers (or is it Driver?) Association.
The public record lists both pgroups, one is dissolved the other is in good standing.
The old group was not authorized to use any other name so just because almost everybody under the sun has been screwing up the name ever since it was announced, maybe there is something inherently wrong with the name itself. I have seen both versions in the papers ascribed to both Steve and Wolf.
From a marketing or public relations standpoint it is an absolute fiasco.
But the fiasco does not reside int he name or incoreect usage and spelling, the fiasco is that you idiots keep fighting over silly and petty issues instad of addressing the real problems.
Mike has opined (wrongfully) that it is due to a apathy among drivers that we are not organized. But the truth we do not have areal leader.
Mike and George cling to outmoded, 19th and 20th century ideals of organizing as some sort of union.
Mike even claims he has an in-depth background in unionization becuase he once visited the basement of the Teasters Union!
That is almost as good as his claim to have "marched" along Michigan Avenue with a "group" of "anarchists." Of course, this means he took a very lonely walk on the Mag Mile.
Masked On-Line Ranger
Out to unmask the flakes and the fakes, reveal the bold-faced bull, disclose the turn-your-balls-blue cold, hard facts and expose the naked truth because it is good for you!)
Mr. Mike and Mr. George do not have what it takes to organize or lead a group, especially not one that brings in at least half of all licensed full-time chauffeurs - real muscle, the kind the city will respect sand listen to.
Al they do is waste their talents on calling people names and disrespecting them on this forum. I have never seen anything like this except in a school yard when the children misbehave.
They question Mr. Wolf and his group to take away from attention to their own failures and mistakes as if it was Mr. Wolf's fault that Mr. Mike and Mr. George cannot do anything to get drivers organized. They just do not have the leadership qualities it takes.
Nobody in Chicago has the qualities it takes to organize and lead the drivers.
I have read numerous books and articles about the American labor movements and workers' unions, and it takes a very special person with real leadership qualities. Sorry Mr. Mike, your out. Sorry Mr. George, you're out too.
If you really want to fight City Hall, you need someone like the Mayor himself. There is no one known in the taxi business that can equal the qualities and abilities Mr. Daley.
Mr. Mike is not the right man. He is a flunky ex-con. If his record was because of union activity then we could follow him. But his criminal record is because he threatened to kill someone. He is not a leader he is an anchor who will hold us back.
Mr. George is not the right man. He is not even a good newspaper man. He uses his paper as sword against the people he does not like. He lets Mr. Mike say anything he wants, no matter how bad and wrong, but be blocks others and removes their posts if he does not like them or what they have to say.
He wants Mr. Wolf to do the right thing. But Mr. George's behavior tells us he does not know himself what the right thing is in the first place. He says Mr. Wolf has failed in his leadership role. But Mr. Wolf has never claimed to be the leader. He has said he wants to help drivers help themselves. Mr. Wolf has said that is what his group mission is - to help drivers help themselves.
All they can do is cry and moan about the problems.
If you follow either of these two guys, you will end up with nothing, or may be less than what you had before.
-montezooma
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Who are the clowns?
The people who have:
1) mis-spelled
2) mis-pronounced
3) mis-understood and
4) mis-taken
the real name of the former organization known as the Chicago Professional Taxi Cab Drivers (or is it Driver?) Association.
The public record lists both pgroups, one is dissolved the other is in good standing.
The old group was not authorized to use any other name so just because almost everybody under the sun has been screwing up the name ever since it was announced, maybe there is something inherently wrong with the name itself. I have seen both versions in the papers ascribed to both Steve and Wolf.
From a marketing or public relations standpoint it is an absolute fiasco.
But the fiasco does not reside int he name or incoreect usage and spelling, the fiasco is that you idiots keep fighting over silly and petty issues instad of addressing the real problems.
Mike has opined (wrongfully) that it is due to a apathy among drivers that we are not organized. But the truth we do not have areal leader.
Mike and George cling to outmoded, 19th and 20th century ideals of organizing as some sort of union.
Mike even claims he has an in-depth background in unionization becuase he once visited the basement of the Teasters Union!
That is almost as good as his claim to have "marched" along Michigan Avenue with a "group" of "anarchists." Of course, this means he took a very lonely walk on the Mag Mile.
Masked On-Line Ranger
Out to unmask the flakes and the fakes, reveal the bold-faced bull, disclose the turn-your-balls-blue cold, hard facts and expose the naked truth because it is good for you!)
Threatening to kill someone isn't a time-honored "union activity"? My bad.
I guess I'll quit trying to organize cabdrivers.
Maybe there's a spot open on the Girl Scouts' "cookie-marketing team".
-Mike Foulks
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Mr. Mike and Mr. George do not have what it takes to organize or lead a group, especially not one that brings in at least half of all licensed full-time chauffeurs - real muscle, the kind the city will respect sand listen to.
Al they do is waste their talents on calling people names and disrespecting them on this forum. I have never seen anything like this except in a school yard when the children misbehave.
They question Mr. Wolf and his group to take away from attention to their own failures and mistakes as if it was Mr. Wolf's fault that Mr. Mike and Mr. George cannot do anything to get drivers organized. They just do not have the leadership qualities it takes.
Nobody in Chicago has the qualities it takes to organize and lead the drivers.
I have read numerous books and articles about the American labor movements and workers' unions, and it takes a very special person with real leadership qualities. Sorry Mr. Mike, your out. Sorry Mr. George, you're out too.
If you really want to fight City Hall, you need someone like the Mayor himself. There is no one known in the taxi business that can equal the qualities and abilities Mr. Daley.
Mr. Mike is not the right man. He is a flunky ex-con. If his record was because of union activity then we could follow him. But his criminal record is because he threatened to kill someone. He is not a leader he is an anchor who will hold us back.
Mr. George is not the right man. He is not even a good newspaper man. He uses his paper as sword against the people he does not like. He lets Mr. Mike say anything he wants, no matter how bad and wrong, but be blocks others and removes their posts if he does not like them or what they have to say.
He wants Mr. Wolf to do the right thing. But Mr. George's behavior tells us he does not know himself what the right thing is in the first place. He says Mr. Wolf has failed in his leadership role. But Mr. Wolf has never claimed to be the leader. He has said he wants to help drivers help themselves. Mr. Wolf has said that is what his group mission is - to help drivers help themselves.
All they can do is cry and moan about the problems.
If you follow either of these two guys, you will end up with nothing, or may be less than what you had before.
-montezooma
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Replying to:
Who are the clowns?
The people who have:
1) mis-spelled
2) mis-pronounced
3) mis-understood and
4) mis-taken
the real name of the former organization known as the Chicago Professional Taxi Cab Drivers (or is it Driver?) Association.
The public record lists both pgroups, one is dissolved the other is in good standing.
The old group was not authorized to use any other name so just because almost everybody under the sun has been screwing up the name ever since it was announced, maybe there is something inherently wrong with the name itself. I have seen both versions in the papers ascribed to both Steve and Wolf.
From a marketing or public relations standpoint it is an absolute fiasco.
But the fiasco does not reside int he name or incoreect usage and spelling, the fiasco is that you idiots keep fighting over silly and petty issues instad of addressing the real problems.
Mike has opined (wrongfully) that it is due to a apathy among drivers that we are not organized. But the truth we do not have areal leader.
Mike and George cling to outmoded, 19th and 20th century ideals of organizing as some sort of union.
Mike even claims he has an in-depth background in unionization becuase he once visited the basement of the Teasters Union!
That is almost as good as his claim to have "marched" along Michigan Avenue with a "group" of "anarchists." Of course, this means he took a very lonely walk on the Mag Mile.
Masked On-Line Ranger
Out to unmask the flakes and the fakes, reveal the bold-faced bull, disclose the turn-your-balls-blue cold, hard facts and expose the naked truth because it is good for you!)
As you now, it also a crime to do so:
Subject: "Just hurry up and die already."
Name: "Just hurry up and die already."
Date Posted: Sep 11, 08 - 8:51 AM
Message:
"Just hurry up and die already."
"Just hurry up and die already."
"Just hurry up and die already."
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Threatening to kill someone isn't a time-honored "union activity"? My bad.
I guess I'll quit trying to organize cabdrivers.
Maybe there's a spot open on the Girl Scouts' "cookie-marketing team".
-Mike Foulks
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Replying to:
Mr. Mike and Mr. George do not have what it takes to organize or lead a group, especially not one that brings in at least half of all licensed full-time chauffeurs - real muscle, the kind the city will respect sand listen to.
Al they do is waste their talents on calling people names and disrespecting them on this forum. I have never seen anything like this except in a school yard when the children misbehave.
They question Mr. Wolf and his group to take away from attention to their own failures and mistakes as if it was Mr. Wolf's fault that Mr. Mike and Mr. George cannot do anything to get drivers organized. They just do not have the leadership qualities it takes.
Nobody in Chicago has the qualities it takes to organize and lead the drivers.
I have read numerous books and articles about the American labor movements and workers' unions, and it takes a very special person with real leadership qualities. Sorry Mr. Mike, your out. Sorry Mr. George, you're out too.
If you really want to fight City Hall, you need someone like the Mayor himself. There is no one known in the taxi business that can equal the qualities and abilities Mr. Daley.
Mr. Mike is not the right man. He is a flunky ex-con. If his record was because of union activity then we could follow him. But his criminal record is because he threatened to kill someone. He is not a leader he is an anchor who will hold us back.
Mr. George is not the right man. He is not even a good newspaper man. He uses his paper as sword against the people he does not like. He lets Mr. Mike say anything he wants, no matter how bad and wrong, but be blocks others and removes their posts if he does not like them or what they have to say.
He wants Mr. Wolf to do the right thing. But Mr. George's behavior tells us he does not know himself what the right thing is in the first place. He says Mr. Wolf has failed in his leadership role. But Mr. Wolf has never claimed to be the leader. He has said he wants to help drivers help themselves. Mr. Wolf has said that is what his group mission is - to help drivers help themselves.
All they can do is cry and moan about the problems.
If you follow either of these two guys, you will end up with nothing, or may be less than what you had before.
-montezooma
--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---
Replying to:
Who are the clowns?
The people who have:
1) mis-spelled
2) mis-pronounced
3) mis-understood and
4) mis-taken
the real name of the former organization known as the Chicago Professional Taxi Cab Drivers (or is it Driver?) Association.
The public record lists both pgroups, one is dissolved the other is in good standing.
The old group was not authorized to use any other name so just because almost everybody under the sun has been screwing up the name ever since it was announced, maybe there is something inherently wrong with the name itself. I have seen both versions in the papers ascribed to both Steve and Wolf.
From a marketing or public relations standpoint it is an absolute fiasco.
But the fiasco does not reside int he name or incoreect usage and spelling, the fiasco is that you idiots keep fighting over silly and petty issues instad of addressing the real problems.
Mike has opined (wrongfully) that it is due to a apathy among drivers that we are not organized. But the truth we do not have areal leader.
Mike and George cling to outmoded, 19th and 20th century ideals of organizing as some sort of union.
Mike even claims he has an in-depth background in unionization becuase he once visited the basement of the Teasters Union!
That is almost as good as his claim to have "marched" along Michigan Avenue with a "group" of "anarchists." Of course, this means he took a very lonely walk on the Mag Mile.
Masked On-Line Ranger
Out to unmask the flakes and the fakes, reveal the bold-faced bull, disclose the turn-your-balls-blue cold, hard facts and expose the naked truth because it is good for you!)
