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Re: Re: Cameras in taxis? How about in City Hall, where we really need them???!!!

This is a world-wide phenomena. Cameras are everywhere.

Will we all behave because we are being watched?

Pretty soon they will be able to check to make sure you wiped your butt properly!

The authorities are so busy watching you, they don't have time to watch themselves:


Ottawa Police Lack Software To View Legally Mandated Taxi Videos
August 7, 2008
Topics police, software, city, camera, video, linda, images, sun, driver, law, men, videos and taxi

Almost all of Ottawa City's 1,100 taxicabs have complied with a law mandating the installation of video cameras in their vehicles. The goal of the requirement is to assist police in criminal investigations of crimes in taxicabs.

However, a technical glitch needs to be addressed. The city police do not have the software to allow them to view the videos.

On July 31, due to this problem, Ottawa police could not yet watch the video of a cab driver robbed by five men on Alta Vista Drive. Linda Anderson, Ottawa Enforcement and Inspections manager assured residents the software problem will be solved this week.

Anderson explained to the Ottawa Sun, "Those images will be on the camera forever... The police have their evidence, it's just a matter of getting the viewing software up and running."

Aug. 2 was the original deadline to install the cameras, however, the Ottawa police extended it to Aug. 14. The camera costs $1,000.

Meanwhile, following the City Council's approval in May, city hall staff are developing recommendations for the implementation of plans for a primary and secondary rapid transit network.

Re: Re: The cameras helped capture an apparent killer - his further crimes PREVENTED.

Here's the point:

Without the SEVEN cameras capturing this guy's criminal act of firing a handgun through the door of a moving CTA bus, killing a young, female passeneger...

...this guy would almost certainly be walking the streets of Chicago with his weaponry. Prone to commit yet another violent crime.

With the publicized images, EVEN HIS OWN MOTHER COULDN'T DENY THAT HE WAS THE GUY POLICE NEEDED TO CAPTURE! In fact, she helped by pleading for her son to do the right thing and turn himself in, which he did.

You seem to object to this tool being used to help identify and apprehend violent and deadly criminals in this manner, Myron, why is that?

Putting aside the cost of these cameras, I'm willing to wager that a majority of cabdrivers would prefer driving a cab with a camera than without one.

This has nothing to do with the partition. Cabs and cabdrivers can benefit from the installation and proper use of both a partition and a camera.

Right now, the apparent killer can't shoot anyone - he's probably in Divisions 8,9,10, or 11 in Cook County Jail - maximum security. He's destined for prison for a long time, possibly life, in my opinion.

-Mike Foulks

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You assuming this guy will never ever commit another crime?

Unless they lock the guy up for life, he may be back on the streets before you know it. He may commit crimes in jail.

With his mother involved, he may have case of wrongful conviction, if he is ever convicted.

He may get off easy and be back on the streets before you know it.

to unsafe with this job

What happens? When, you pick someone up at state and grand. They want to go to 63rd and stewart. The camera takes picture of that person. When, you get to place on southside. The person can kill right away. Then, steal, and break the camera in pieces. City will never know who killed you.

Re: TOO UNSAFE. Who is more dangerous?

The city does not care who kills you when you are dead and buried so your rotting corpse don't smell up the cab. All they care about is using their power to force video cameras on cab owners.

The driver who pay lease pays for the camera when owner will charge more lease. The city will patrol and check cabs for camera violations to make more money from drivers. Is it safer to pay more fines from city for driver and owner if camera is off or broken.

Who is more dangerous to the drivers, all the thieves who rob cab drivers or the city?

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What happens? When, you pick someone up at state and grand. They want to go to 63rd and stewart. The camera takes picture of that person. When, you get to place on southside. The person can kill right away. Then, steal, and break the camera in pieces. City will never know who killed you.

Re: to unsafe with this job

"Steve",

The best cameras will transmit data to a central location for storage and retrieval, and be used in conjunction with GPS.

Criminals will indeed try to adapt to this new technology. Just because thieves figured out how to pick locks centuries ago, that doesn't stop us from using locks today - the point is, you use better locks.

There will be camera systems which will be useless or which will fail or be defeated. Those are bad camera systems. There will be superior camera systems which will be more successful and have tactical advantages as I've described. We should demand the use of superior systems.

But, if all cabdrivers want to do is ***** about something, then we will get inferior systems, much like we have now with our credit card regulations and processing.

-Mike Foulks

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What happens? When, you pick someone up at state and grand. They want to go to 63rd and stewart. The camera takes picture of that person. When, you get to place on southside. The person can kill right away. Then, steal, and break the camera in pieces. City will never know who killed you.

Re: Re: toooooooooooooooooooooo unsafe with this job

Who is more dangerous to the drivers, all the thieves who rob cab drivers or the city?

Ed

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"Steve",

The best cameras will transmit data to a central location for storage and retrieval, and be used in conjunction with GPS.

Criminals will indeed try to adapt to this new technology. Just because thieves figured out how to pick locks centuries ago, that doesn't stop us from using locks today - the point is, you use better locks.

There will be camera systems which will be useless or which will fail or be defeated. Those are bad camera systems. There will be superior camera systems which will be more successful and have tactical advantages as I've described. We should demand the use of superior systems.

But, if all cabdrivers want to do is ***** about something, then we will get inferior systems, much like we have now with our credit card regulations and processing.

-Mike Foulks

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What happens? When, you pick someone up at state and grand. They want to go to 63rd and stewart. The camera takes picture of that person. When, you get to place on southside. The person can kill right away. Then, steal, and break the camera in pieces. City will never know who killed you.