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This forum has a long history, by interent standards anyway-unfortunately it has been abandoned for far too long due to real life circumstances knocking the heck out of what had been my very real desire to keep this board alive and well forever so that all of us could meet here and communicate with each other everyday.

I'm not sure that a forum like this is even needed nowadays since the advent of facebook, etc...but I hope that this once thriving BB does bring some of us back together again and that maybe some new folks will join us as well!   
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Re: Maybe I shouldn't ask.

Good advice. Oh don't worry, I've been well educated
about what not to post here. Learned that lesson
way back during the 4th ID deployment.

Re: Maybe I shouldn't ask.

Former Grunt: Again the answer is yes. I don't know if it is denial, or simply being busy, but many Vets, my self included, didn't recognize symptoms until we stopped working. Some of the symptoms (drinking, temper, etc.) might have been there all along, but we didn't recognize them for what they were. We didn't think we were depressed because we were able to keep busy concentrating on work. When we did feel down we could always find another reason for it. As I look back, I can see certain problems I was having, even while working, which I didn't attribute to PTSD at the time but were probably related.
I don't think any of us will ever entirely outgrow the pain; but the good news is we can learn to cope with it. LIFE CAN BE GOOD AGAIN.

PS: Never be afraid to ask. That's what Brothers are for.

Re: Maybe I shouldn't ask.

Thanks "Doc"
I can say You are absolutely right, since I've been
involved with group therapy at the Vet center I can see a definite change in My attitude. There is 16
"Nam" vets in that group, and each one can say:
"been there, done that" Thanks for the encouraging words.