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Re: Re: Re: Ahmed R., do YOU have a "forked tongue"? Who's lying, you or Peter Enger?

Mike, I stand corrected. Three other drivers participated in your "march" The other two people there were not drivers, but spectators. Good luck in your election.

The olympic bid is one of Ritchie's final goals as mayor of Chicago.Even he knows that his time must come to an end some day. Keeping our fares down just makes the city more attractive to visitors. A quote from Ritchie: Don't even ask for a raise for the next year." This was said right after he announced the surcharge. I saw it for my own eyes and ears through my TV at home. Why did he say this: The decision from the olympic committee is due next year. The surcharge is not an increase in the rates of fare and does not count in his proposal of the costs of attending the games.

Some think the olympic games will be good for business. Use common sense here, The people will be here for two weeks EIGHT years from now.
1) The City needs money to make the necessary improvements for the games to be brought here. Where do you think some of this money will come from?
2)Ritchie says the games will turn a profit for the city. Does anyone really think The city will give us a refund of all of the low fares we took over the next year? Does anyone think once the games go into the green the city will refund the money taken from us in fines for parking or ordinance violations?

Get real people if you think the city and the olympic bid are our friends. We just give and get taken advantage of. When its our time to get due payment for our services we are overlooked. I am tired of working for slave wages. I gave up early tonight after filling my tank at 4.20 per gallon. Back off of the lawsuit guys. I am ready to file my own suit if the current one fails.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Ahmed R., do YOU have a "forked tongue"? Who's lying, you or Peter Enger?

Ahmed R.,

How are you "corrected"? There were 7 or 8, I don't remember or care. I think there is little difference in 3 and 7, but I think my point would be that we made enough of an impression on the State's Attorney office and one of the decision makers I spoke to afterwards that you are only compounding your pointless and erroneous statements with your obvious pre-disposition against me.

You want to stop the Olympics, but you won't join a march to get the charges against a fellow Chicago cabdriver upgraded to a felony, you'd rather not participate and then try to pre-ridicule me for whatever "my election" turnout will be????

I think you need to "get real", Ahmed R.

You want to measure the success of "my march" by the number of cabdrivers like you who didn't care to show up.

What would you have preferred me to do, come cook you breakfast, drive you over, or pay you to show up? Then there'd be 2 of us! Great plan!

Thanks to all of the awareness that the 7 in the march, especially Melissa Callahan and Steve Wiedersberg, and the 20 or 30 who showed up at the hearing on the West Side a couple of days later, the goal was achieved...

Where do you get off ridiculing me? You are the one who has no courage to "put yourself out there" to face and reply to dumb****s like you.

You are "ready to file your own lawsuit"? Really? What's stopping you? I call bull****. Let's see it.

Why are you telling us? What do you want from us? Admiration at your independent and here-to-fore unknown patience?

Seems like you are a do-nothing or a "quitter".

You still haven't told us what "DCS operational changes" you made or how or when that happened...I'm all ears, Mr. Mysterio...show us your magic tricks!

And by the way, the "spectators" charge properly belongs to the hearing crowd who padded their numbers with a bunch of college kids, from what I hear. Not a bad "trick", but it didn't fool me from jack-ass lawyer Don Nathan's claim that "over fifty cabdrivers" where there.

The only ones "spectating" at the march where the security guards and county cops who accompanied us in and out of the building and one who rode up in the elevator with us.

I've seen a few pictures of the hearing crowd on the West Side. I can't see more than seven actual cabdrivers in them, but I'm not really counting the way you and others seem to be.

How do you feel about UTCC's Peter Enger admitting to tearing down a flyer I posted about the march? Funny how almost all of them seemed to come down. Think that might have had an impact at all?

You are like a criminal who wants to blame the Sheriff for not stopping you from committing crimes.

It's time for you to become more involved with a group, Ahmed R.. Pick one or start your own.

Only question to answer, if you only answer one...why didn't you march with the 7 or 8 of us who cared?

-Mike Foulks

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Mike, I stand corrected. Three other drivers participated in your "march" The other two people there were not drivers, but spectators. Good luck in your election.

The olympic bid is one of Ritchie's final goals as mayor of Chicago.Even he knows that his time must come to an end some day. Keeping our fares down just makes the city more attractive to visitors. A quote from Ritchie: Don't even ask for a raise for the next year." This was said right after he announced the surcharge. I saw it for my own eyes and ears through my TV at home. Why did he say this: The decision from the olympic committee is due next year. The surcharge is not an increase in the rates of fare and does not count in his proposal of the costs of attending the games.

Some think the olympic games will be good for business. Use common sense here, The people will be here for two weeks EIGHT years from now.
1) The City needs money to make the necessary improvements for the games to be brought here. Where do you think some of this money will come from?
2)Ritchie says the games will turn a profit for the city. Does anyone really think The city will give us a refund of all of the low fares we took over the next year? Does anyone think once the games go into the green the city will refund the money taken from us in fines for parking or ordinance violations?

Get real people if you think the city and the olympic bid are our friends. We just give and get taken advantage of. When its our time to get due payment for our services we are overlooked. I am tired of working for slave wages. I gave up early tonight after filling my tank at 4.20 per gallon. Back off of the lawsuit guys. I am ready to file my own suit if the current one fails.

Re: Ahmed R., do YOU have a "forked tongue"? Who's lying, you or Peter Enger?

Subject: Here, Mike, Mikey, Mikey, Chew on this for a while
Name: wjw
Date Posted: May 18, 08 - 11:08 AM
Message: ...and try to resist retorts with some your usual slobber blabber about yourself, mugs, mopes, schlongs, bongs, smart asses (ignorant ones, too) or anyone on your personal hate list.

CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM is a compassionate attitude towards the person qualified for criticism.

Having higher experience, gifts, respect, knowledge in specific field and being able to verbally convince at the same time, this person is intending to uplift the other person materially, morally, emotionally or spiritually.

For high probability in succeeding his compassionate criticism the critic has to be in some kind of healthy personal relationship with the other one, which is normally a parent to child, friend to friend, teacher to student, spouse to spouse or any kind of recognized authority in specific field.

Hence the word constructive is used so that something is created or visible outcome generated rather than the opposite.

Participatory learning in pedagogy is based on these principles of constructive criticism.

Here the saying applies that example is better than precept.

There can be tension between constructive and useful criticism; for instance, a critic might usefully help an individual artist to recognize what is poor or slapdash in their body of work—but the critic may have to appear harsh and judgmental in order to state this.

But useful criticism is a practical part of constructive criticism.

DESTRUCTIVE CRITICISM is intended to harm someone, derogate and destroy someone’s creation, prestige, reputation and self-esteem on whatever level it might be.

This may be done intentionally or out of sheer ignorance and foolishness.

Hence the word destructive is used.

In practical life destructive criticism may be disguised as constructive to be more painful while harming.

Valid examination of intention of critic is when asked to prove, to help or to be somewhat useful at all.

Often destructive criticism comes from persons who are envious, cruel and those who judges in fields which are not their own.

PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE PERSONALITY DISORDER (also called NEGATIVISTIC PERSONALITY DISORDER) is a personality disorder said to be marked by a pervasive pattern of negative attitudes and passive, usually disavowed resistance in interpersonal or occupational situations.

On that point, Cecil Adams writes:

Merely being passive-aggressive isn't a disorder but a behavior — sometimes a perfectly rational behavior, which lets you dodge unpleasant chores while avoiding confrontation.

It's only pathological if it's a habitual, crippling response reflecting a pervasively pessimistic attitude.

When the behaviors are part of a person's personality disorder or personality style, repercussions are not usually immediate, but instead accumulate over time as the individuals affected by the person come to recognize the disavowed aggression coming from that person.

PEOPLE WITH THIS PERSONALITY STYLE ARE OFTEN QUITE UNCONSCIOUS OF THEIR IMPACT ON OTHERS, AND THUS MAY BE GENUINELY DISMAYED WHEN HELD TO ACCOUNT FOR THE INCONVENIENCE OR DISCOMFORT CAUSED BY THEIR PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIORS.

In that context, there is a failure to see how they might have provoked a negative response, so they feel misunderstood, held to unreasonable standards, and/or put upon.

Treatment of this disorder can be difficult: efforts to convince the patient that their unconscious feelings are being expressed passively, and that the passive expression of those feelings (their behavior) inspires other people's anger or disappointment with the patient, are often met with resistance.

Individuals with the disorder will frequently leave treatment claiming that it did no good.

Since the effectiveness of various therapies has yet to be proven, these individuals may be correct.

Passive aggressive disorder is said to stem from a specific childhood stimulus (e.g.

overbearing parental figures, or alcohol/drug addicted parents).

Re: Re: Ahmed R., do YOU have a "forked tongue"? Who's lying, you or Peter Enger?

Wol'f "talking crazy" again.

-Mike Foulks

P.S. I'm having deja vu.

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Subject: Here, Mike, Mikey, Mikey, Chew on this for a while
Name: wjw
Date Posted: May 18, 08 - 11:08 AM
Message: ...and try to resist retorts with some your usual slobber blabber about yourself, mugs, mopes, schlongs, bongs, smart asses (ignorant ones, too) or anyone on your personal hate list.

CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM is a compassionate attitude towards the person qualified for criticism.

Having higher experience, gifts, respect, knowledge in specific field and being able to verbally convince at the same time, this person is intending to uplift the other person materially, morally, emotionally or spiritually.

For high probability in succeeding his compassionate criticism the critic has to be in some kind of healthy personal relationship with the other one, which is normally a parent to child, friend to friend, teacher to student, spouse to spouse or any kind of recognized authority in specific field.

Hence the word constructive is used so that something is created or visible outcome generated rather than the opposite.

Participatory learning in pedagogy is based on these principles of constructive criticism.

Here the saying applies that example is better than precept.

There can be tension between constructive and useful criticism; for instance, a critic might usefully help an individual artist to recognize what is poor or slapdash in their body of work—but the critic may have to appear harsh and judgmental in order to state this.

But useful criticism is a practical part of constructive criticism.

DESTRUCTIVE CRITICISM is intended to harm someone, derogate and destroy someone’s creation, prestige, reputation and self-esteem on whatever level it might be.

This may be done intentionally or out of sheer ignorance and foolishness.

Hence the word destructive is used.

In practical life destructive criticism may be disguised as constructive to be more painful while harming.

Valid examination of intention of critic is when asked to prove, to help or to be somewhat useful at all.

Often destructive criticism comes from persons who are envious, cruel and those who judges in fields which are not their own.

PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE PERSONALITY DISORDER (also called NEGATIVISTIC PERSONALITY DISORDER) is a personality disorder said to be marked by a pervasive pattern of negative attitudes and passive, usually disavowed resistance in interpersonal or occupational situations.

On that point, Cecil Adams writes:

Merely being passive-aggressive isn't a disorder but a behavior — sometimes a perfectly rational behavior, which lets you dodge unpleasant chores while avoiding confrontation.

It's only pathological if it's a habitual, crippling response reflecting a pervasively pessimistic attitude.

When the behaviors are part of a person's personality disorder or personality style, repercussions are not usually immediate, but instead accumulate over time as the individuals affected by the person come to recognize the disavowed aggression coming from that person.

PEOPLE WITH THIS PERSONALITY STYLE ARE OFTEN QUITE UNCONSCIOUS OF THEIR IMPACT ON OTHERS, AND THUS MAY BE GENUINELY DISMAYED WHEN HELD TO ACCOUNT FOR THE INCONVENIENCE OR DISCOMFORT CAUSED BY THEIR PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIORS.

In that context, there is a failure to see how they might have provoked a negative response, so they feel misunderstood, held to unreasonable standards, and/or put upon.

Treatment of this disorder can be difficult: efforts to convince the patient that their unconscious feelings are being expressed passively, and that the passive expression of those feelings (their behavior) inspires other people's anger or disappointment with the patient, are often met with resistance.

Individuals with the disorder will frequently leave treatment claiming that it did no good.

Since the effectiveness of various therapies has yet to be proven, these individuals may be correct.

Passive aggressive disorder is said to stem from a specific childhood stimulus (e.g.

overbearing parental figures, or alcohol/drug addicted parents).

Re: Re: Re: Day Jaw Woo - words to the wise

"A word to the wise is sufficient."

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Intelligent people can take hints; they don’t need to have everything explained to them at great length.

‡ The phrase “a word to the wise” frequently accompanies a warning of some sort.


The New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition. Edited by E.D. Hirsch, Jr., Joseph F. Kett, and James Trefil. Copyright © 2002 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

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...something that you say when you are going to give someone some advice.

For example, "If you're going to drive, don't go on a Friday night until after the rush hour traffic."

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